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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

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gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 01:29 - 968 of 1034

Sahara
- Yes the info Mullins packs into a couple of hundred pages of just "one book"
- would give the average
" pad a litlle knowledge out into a book"
- enough material to write a dozen books.

I have only read the two the above MBJ & Secrets of the Feddy, but the investigative research and detail packed into them - really puts him in a league of his own.
(as you intimate.....and yet still lived to continue the disclosures...thankfully)

As you say - try covering anything off the straight and narrow indoctrination with the average sheeps....and it really is if they
- click into "standby mode" & brain offline.

Mullins even covers that aspect
- as the effects of mercury in our multi childhood vaccines (he omits amalgam mercury fillings) - toxic overload of aluminium..which is in everything from antiperspirants, most cosmetics, sunscreens, even presc. pills and potions, over the counter meds, baking powder (Bread and most baked products) and mucm more
- as well as the obvious... soda cans/food & confectionery packaging etc
(incidentally - guess what lines many of the acidic aluminium dissolving....cardboard fruit juice and other drinks cartons...eg milk) .

Which when combined with the lovely dentists & waterboard friends - industrial waste
- ie fluoride
- and chlorine

Makes the above two toxic metals - even more toxic
(I am sure that you are aware the small man/small mustache guy used fluoride in the Kamps - and the Ruskies too in the gooly-gags ...to subdue/sedate/zombify...their guests)

You have also previously mentioned the snoozin' effects of the TV over stimulation of brain waves.
- couple that with Cell Tower frequencies
- add in the GWEN towers still in play...on other duties of course (after being banned by congress re their "potential" for.... misuse in mind control)
- then throw in for good measure - the adverse effects of routers....and "smart meters" too.

And - it really is a testimony to the resiliance of the... other humans amongst us
- that we can even tie our shoe laces
- or find our way back from the garden shed
(& that's without....presciption meds....pleasantries)

We can but try
- although as the cycles - not our time...article makes clear
-how did we ourselves awaken
- first just a little
- then...suddenly....a lot

I get the feeling the majority- will either experience the wake up - just a little then suddenly a lot....at the same "too late" instant
- if they awake at all.

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:11 - 969 of 1034

Sahara
- re the solar flares/emp/carrington effect.

Yes they have been talking about it "big style" since the Korean change of leadership & last autumns park all the hardware offshore of Iran....on the EMP front.

The grid shut down excercise last month re the U.S Canada (& from memory maybe Mexico too)
- does seem to be getting intensive....on the "stage setting" front.

The outgoing head of the Dept Of Homebuoy Sec. - also - essentially said to the incoming incumbent

- Sorry the Cyber attack and/or disaster
- looks like it's going to be...on your watch
- but bye....gotta go.

So has a look of "directed" history in play.

Putting the "small foil hat "on....Mandela - was kept running on pilot light only...until
- it recently....got blown out.

Putting the "medium foil hat on".....just as the most spectacular comet (ISON) passed Mars....the Mars Rover...and all the space based telescope feeds
- got sent on furlow - due to the budget shutdown
- on musch of the run into the perihelion around the sun
(Strange for an automatic feed....but there you go).

In addition...there have been several gliches and hiccups in the space telescope feeds
- after...they came back from shutdown furlow
- and I watched one you/T where......
- a guy had allegedly recorded live feeds of ISON....and then showed the current archived version of the same footage....complete with....a blurred smudge out of.....(Well it seemed interesting...whatever it was in his original capture)
- weird shit...as some say.

The several hundred million mie tail, is again, alledgedly fanning out/widening at 2 million miles a day.
- and whilst the big lumps that survived around the sun...should...wing their way over the North pole with a multi million mile clearance
- what sized fanning out debris we are likely to pass thro'
- seems anybodys guess at the moment

Putting on the XL Foil Hat....many of the great and good - will soon be a 20min drive away from a S.African....deep bunker :o)

All in all the PTB have the ground and space based exotic hardware...to simulate/create any.... natural looking disaster.

And generally speaking...with O'Barmy ratings at an all time low.....and the other stuff seemingly hanging together by a thread

- one of those Flaggy Falsies may be brewing over the near term perhaps.



gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:15 - 970 of 1034

Jim Rickards
- as we know took part in 5-a-goons "currency war" games excercise (subsequently writing a book on the subject).

It seems China....are now involved in similar - scenario play out planning

http://www.ingoldwetrust.ch/china-prepares-for-financial-warfare

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:53 - 971 of 1034

Pastor Williams
- as master of padding 10mins out into an hour plus show...I have.... only scanned along.... the interview in about 5/10mins but......

Allegedly ....his elite contacts/friends have advised him

1)
- 200 plus countries will announce a - Global - currency reset
(with I think it was then - only a 5% trading range of each other).

Seemingly this will occur within around 90 days of.....the implementation of "O'Barmy Care"

(sorry I have lost the plot on O/Care implementation - thought it was 1st Jan 14, but gather bugger all people have actually signed up at the moment, and poss moves to reschedule/revise/ammend/recind it altogether....so as to a date on that score ???)

2)
Collapse of the Dollar....Banks Doors Closing.....18m Time ( I imagine that relates to US)

3)
Towards the end (I think about 44min in)....interesting comments re smart meters....plus
(coincidence re - my earlier post comments re....people going into "standby/brain offline mode"




I do of course have doubts & whether he is knowingly/unknowingly complicit
- in TPTB game

But to his credit 15m or so ago when ....every commentator... and his dog
- was ranting on about the hardware parked off Iran....and imminent war
- he said -" not going to happen" and won't for ...I think it was... 18m*...and an
- if at all*
(So he was right on that one so far)

There was also....Much addo - about the collapse of the dollar ...that was also in vogue back then (Still is)
- he said - the elite were not yet ready
- and I think back then he intimated.....2015 *being pencilled in.
(so correct so far....and the current 18m time...is still....2015)

Could be way off on recollection of the *forward dates/if at all* - he gave last year
- but - both the.... not yets... are correct

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 02:57 - 972 of 1034

Goldcore.com

- states US & BofE - state have been carrying out joint exercise re..... dealing with collapse of.... a major bank.
- they state that ..... the US - is ready now
- and emphasise - they mean now - as in today

Saturn6 - 13 Dec 2013 14:02 - 973 of 1034

Phew Gaz!! - All the different ways in which we are under attack as you point out above could easily place us into a state of willing acceptance of whatever they decide without us really knowing any better. ((

I mean, mercury/thimerasol, microwaves, floride GWEN etc etc!!...As you say

'- that we can even tie our shoe laces
- or find our way back from the garden shed'

...is a MYSTERY.

Wearing a foil hat maybe should be taken more seriously ;-/

It would seem the pensions are the next cash hoard to be acquiesced, and that makes a lot of sense, and as he points out; this has started to occur already in Poland and Michigan.

Keep stacking the physical before the currency re-set. I am liking the look of agri and other commodities again around here and may start accumulating, although a bit perturbed by having to find a storage facility to handle 2-3 hundred k, bu of wheat etc ((

S.



Saturn6 - 13 Dec 2013 14:40 - 974 of 1034

Miners may have plotted a 'Bear Trap' and if so need to prove it forthwith...



If they stay in a tight range today we will see a 'Doji Harami' appear on the weeekly chart and we should all know what to look for next/?...



S.

gazkaz - 13 Dec 2013 17:52 - 975 of 1034

Sahara - lol
(If you know the secret of stacking bushels you can cut down storage requirements by a good 25% :o)

I think there will be a lot of - painting the tapes - into the year end
- Bankster and fund managers 13 pieces of silver at stake an' all, plus setting the stage for 2014

........................................................................................................................

This is another - of those compact/condensed articles - that really does ...
- cram in more information & facts than you can shake a stick at, re the BIG picture

- everything from how TPTB all connect.

(everybody from Col Olly North, Condelissa Paddy Field, Yeltsin, Bush's I & II, Marcoss Gold,Barrick Mining, FEMA...and lots more...all connected into and through a nice 911 wrapper.....even Greenspan)

- and there's a - darn sight more gold above ground ......than the traditional olympic size swimming pools's worth !!!

The alleged - leased & central bank gold.....is more likely.....the "laundered in" gold
(coughBarricKcough)

I think it also blows out the water
- Bix Weirs "Road To Roota" theory...that Greenspan is really - one of the ...good guys.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17233336/September-11-Commission-Report-Revised-December-2008

Like Mullins
- May the author also - hopefully - "live long and prosper" (as the vulcan said)

Saturn6 - 15 Dec 2013 10:45 - 976 of 1034

Cheers Gaz - Have passed that little beauty 9/11 report onto my notebook for night-time reading.

Seriously thought of hoarding agri items but there is a lot of serious needs to consider temp, hygene, mosture etc, besides the cost of delivery and storaage of course. Also I did sell all but one of my warehouses this year and thats only a small one and is on agreement for the tennant to buy after Apr/05/14. But intrigued to know about your secret 25% volume reduction of bu? Although I suspect it may be freeze drying?

Buying into diversified privately held farms is probably a better option for now/?

Thanks for all the great posts and links.

S.

Saturn6 - 15 Dec 2013 10:53 - 977 of 1034

Silver RSI popped out of the downtrend but was rebuffed by the centre line. Also price fell below the 10/DMA and is being held in check by that MA now. It needs to bust above there to confirm the buy signal on the McD....



S.

Saturn6 - 16 Dec 2013 09:12 - 978 of 1034

Looking for an up candle on the $FTSE today to complete the bullish 'Morning Star' formation, which should be the start of the Santa Rally to take us to year end/?...



With the FOMC rate decision on wednesday watch for any hint of 'tapering' to cause voaltility in the markets, an exogenous shock could thwart the typically bullish year end rally where Dec is up over 70% of the time over the last 20 years and up even more of the time during the second half of Dec...



S.

Saturn6 - 16 Dec 2013 10:57 - 979 of 1034

I am expecting a bounce from here on the miners and will swallow my pride if found to be incorrect. And here is what I would envisage if I am on the right track...



Here are the other charts I am looking at for guidance...




S.


gazkaz - 17 Dec 2013 00:26 - 980 of 1034

Sahara
Apologies my sense of humour and cross purposes
- I didn't realise you were serious on the taking delivery/storing large volume of physical bushels.....I "assumed" you were refering mainly to - trading agri contracts/option/futurescommodities....and
- the storage was more a - tongue in cheek.
(my reply was an attempt at humour - based on a completely wrong "assumption" :o)

So hands up - I'm guilty of what those ....annoying cliche people - say
assume - and you make an...... "ass" of "U" & "me"

gazkaz - 17 Dec 2013 00:56 - 981 of 1034

The Yanks/TPTB military arm - just rinse and repeat - the same old, same playbook

Iran’s Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif (Reuters / Ruben Spric)
- . Iran has halted fraught nuclear talks with the West, saying that Washington has ..
- acted contrary to the spirit of a ‘landmark agreement’ established last month.
- The US has widened its blacklists, adding further people and companies under current sanctions.

“The negotiations were halted by [the] Iranian delegation because of
- new American sanctions.
The Iranian negotiating team has halted the talks at this stage and are headed back to the capital due to America’s lack of commitment to the agreement,”
- Iranian news agency, Mehr, reported Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, Abbas Araqchi, as saying.

......................................................................................................................

If you read the true history of WWII
- Japan tried to surrender - several times
- each time TPTB insisted on a condition that they knew - Japan would not/could not fulfil
- ie that the emporer stepped down
- thus backing Japan into a corner.....and forcing them to attack P/Harbour
(Which the president was aware was - en route - 6 weeks ahead of the actual attack)

As usual a - a forced falsie flaggy - to get the US - in the game
- and give oppenheimer the chance to try out the new toy on the unfortunate inhabitants of Hirosh & Naga.

......................................................................................................................

A sick sick game TPTB .....play.

gazkaz - 17 Dec 2013 01:01 - 982 of 1034

The all important words....minimum....total (bank Liabs)

Reuters) – Italy’s Economy Minister Fabrizio Saccomanni said on Tuesday that public intervention on troubled banks should come after inflicting losses on bondholders through
- a .....minimum bail-in of 8 percent of total bank liabilities

gazkaz - 17 Dec 2013 01:06 - 983 of 1034

A TIP from Iceland

In a landmark ruling, Reykjavík District Court sentenced
four former executives of Kaupthing Bank to between
- 3 and 5 1/2 years in prison
for financial crimes dating back.... to 2008.






I still prefer the "Ken Livingstone" suggestion
(As recently used in China/Iran)

Saturn6 - 17 Dec 2013 18:24 - 984 of 1034

Its just me Gaz - Re Bushels/...I take things too literally oftentimes. ((

Re Iceland ..."Quote" of the decade gaz - It should be flown from every yardarm and flagpole in the British realm, and alongside a set of gallows in every public sq ;-o

Things are definitely heating up re your post on Saccomanni. I think Europe is in for a re-shuffle early in the New Year perhaps, as the sovereign debt charade that everything is A OK, with all european banks and countries cannot remain much longer without exploding into a full blown crisis (grab for cash)/....



' The war cycles are turning up dramatically. From 2014 to 2020, they will wreak total havoc on Europe and the U.S.

And in Europe and Washington, our leaders are becoming more and more dictatorial, more fascist, more authoritarian.

Why? Because big Western socialist governments are dying and our leaders know it. So they are acting like caged animals and fighting back the only way they know how: By attacking their own citizens.

This is how Rome died. This is how the Byzantine empire fell. It’s how the maritime merchant-based Venetian times ended. And many other civilizations throughout history that have often been at the core of the global economy. '

http://www.moneyandmarkets.com/2014-the-first-year-of-the-21st-century-dark-age-56957

'They do not die by hyperinflation, as so many seem to think. They do not die by severe deflation either. Instead, they die by leaders turning against their own people to hunt down every penny of wealth they can find to tax and confiscate — all in the name of saving the government.'



If we look at the devaluation of the $USD we learn that $5000 in 1913 when the Federal Reserve was created on Jekyll island is now worth..\\\DRUM ROLL/// ...4.5 cents today, or maybe a bit less even.

As Voltaire correctly opined, "All paper eventually returns to its intrinsic value-zero." In 1871 the British economist David Ricardo noted, "Experience has shown that neither a state nor a bank ever had the unrestricted power of issuing paper money without abusing that power."

If Gold and Silver had no real worth then they would not be classed as 'precious'.

S.

MaxK - 17 Dec 2013 18:56 - 985 of 1034

gaz.

re: #917


They're pulling your pud....It's so wildly over the top as to be laughable.

Check out the depth they were supposed to be filming at, small problem, theres no light at that depth.

You cant swim about with an aqualung at those depths, and definitely not in your underpants.

The depth they are saying is knocking a 1000 atmospheres - sea level = 1


even paranoids have enemies :-)

gazkaz - 18 Dec 2013 01:23 - 986 of 1034

Hi Max
- in your underpants lol

- I have slept a few times since then :o) - but from memory as I rewound it at the time
- they didn't say they were actually diving at 14,000 feet off (wherever it was)- they said (from memory to the effect) "the floor" fell/dropped to 14,000 feet.
So you could be padding off the UK east coast, but you could factually say - and the floor falls to say 800 feet
(ie further out).

The documentary said - the guys filming equipment had been "damaged in the same storm" - & he couldn't film, so it's not actual footage.

Sacred geometry pyramids have - some stunning "unexplainable" properties
- the Ruskies have carried out significant & scientific research on them
- look up "Golods pyramids"
(interesting stuff)

Quarts crystals have energy focussing properties too - invention of radio as a simple well known example (The crystal radio)

Science - still can't explain magnetism (only it's effects)
- there is much that science can't explain
- and even more that science explains (but is a crock of ba-ba).

On the subject of pyramids - TPTB still stick to - 800 ton granite blocks - precision fitted with joints you can't get a razor blade into
- cut with stone hammers and copper chisels ?

I keep an open mind & hope you enjoy "Golods Pyramids"

gazkaz - 18 Dec 2013 02:02 - 987 of 1034

Sahara
- Yes "real history" isn't taught (in fact actively supressed).
- from the collapse of empires, the collapse of fiat right through to Darwinism

As you eloquently point out - "to know the future, we must first know the past"
(somebody famous must have said that).

Unfortunately once all physical wriiten books - have become only.... kindle digitals
- no hard copies of "True" history will exist
- and the digital versions - can be deleted and ammended/edited to suit TPTB of the day
(Much more easily than ....the all too frequent book burnings of the past) .

I think we are the golden generation - blessed with virtually unlimited access to information... and virtually all free.
- from ancient manuscripts to long out of print books
- thro' to lectures by some of the most brilliant people in there fields
all available at a few clicks of a keyboard via a google or youT search.

I think once current young I-tech obsessed generation get to be the "oldies" - hard printed information will be virtually obsolete
- and prior generations hard copy books....consigned to the dump as & when they die in the house clearances.

As film director Aaron Russo in an interview with - that man Jones - gives 1st hand account of his private conversions with one of the Rockerchappies
- "The elite work to a rolling - multi generational - plan"

Its's as plain as the nose on my face - that once everything has become digitised only, &...... deleted/edited/ammended
- the elite of the near future
- will once again become the Rulers/Priests/Stonechippers of the past - as the only possessors ....of true knowledge.

To know the future....you must first know the past....again perhaps.



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