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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 14:14 - 4001 of 6906

In the land of the Bollocks

Have you nothing better to do with your time , get a life.

Look at all the land they have in Golders Green and there is a long waiting list for Volvo Estates and if you don't wear a long false bead and a high hat we have to go to the end of the waiting list.

cynic - 30 Dec 2010 14:15 - 4002 of 6906

isn't most of the land in Golders Green (and Willesden) overcrowded cemetry?

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 14:17 - 4003 of 6906

The land of the living dead , lol

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:22 - 4004 of 6906

The letter above was somewhat of a prophecy. Israel has become a fascist terrorist state even worse than it was at the time.

In The Land of the B - 30 Dec 2010 14:22 - 4005 of 6906

Don't be so serious, this is just a bit of good humoured joshing between old mates, isn't it parrot?

Isn't it?

In The Land of the B - 30 Dec 2010 14:25 - 4006 of 6906

As long as he's got the book of slogans for dummies and the internet, the parrot will keep on...........parroting........copy and paste ad infinitum.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:25 - 4007 of 6906

Nothing good humoured about Israeli sponsored apartheidism and ethnic cleasing..

cynic - 30 Dec 2010 14:25 - 4008 of 6906

bit like those cosy ghettos in warsaw and the like then aldo

In The Land of the B - 30 Dec 2010 14:28 - 4009 of 6906

cynic,
"aldo" is totally wasted on him LOL

In The Land of the B - 30 Dec 2010 14:29 - 4010 of 6906

I forgot parrots don't have a sense of humour.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:30 - 4011 of 6906

Here is the actual letter
http://www.illuminati-news.com/einstein-letter.htm

Letters to the Editor
New York Times
December 4, 1948


TO THE EDITORS OF THE NEW YORK TIMES:

Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

The current visit of Menachem Begin, leader of this party, to the United States is obviously calculated to give the impression of American support for his party in the coming Israeli elections, and to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.

Before irreparable damage is done by way of financial contributions, public manifestations in Begin's behalf, and the creation in Palestine of the impression that a large segment of America supports Fascist elements in Israel, the American public must be informed as to the record and objectives of Mr. Begin and his movement. The public avowals of Begin's party are no guide whatever to its actual character. Today they speak of freedom, democracy and anti-imperialism, whereas until recently they openly preached the doctrine of the Fascist state. It is in its actions that the terrorist party betrays its real character; from its past actions we can judge what it may be expected to do in the future.

Attack on Arab Village

A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants ? 240 men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin. The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party.

Within the Jewish community they have preached an admixture of ultranationalism, religious mysticism, and racial superiority. Like other Fascist parties they have been used to break strikes, and have themselves pressed for the destruction of free trade unions. In their stead they have proposed corporate unions on the Italian Fascist model. During the last years of sporadic anti-British violence, the IZL and Stern groups inaugurated a reign of terror in the Palestine Jewish community. Teachers were beaten up for speaking against them, adults were shot for not letting their children join them. By gangster methods, beatings, window-smashing, and wide-spread robberies, the terrorists intimidated the population and exacted a heavy tribute.

The people of the Freedom Party have had no part in the constructive achievements in Palestine. They have reclaimed no land, built no settlements, and only detracted from the Jewish defense activity. Their much-publicized immigration endeavors were minute, and devoted mainly to bringing in Fascist compatriots.

Discrepancies Seen

The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal.

In the light of the foregoing considerations, it is imperative that the truth about Mr. Begin and his movement be made known in this country. It is all the more tragic that the top leadership of American Zionism has refused to campaign against Begin's efforts, or even to expose to its own constituents the dangers to Israel from support to Begin.

The undersigned therefore take this means of publicly presenting a few salient facts concerning Begin and his party; and of urging all concerned not to support this latest manifestation of fascism.

ISIDORE ABRAMOWITZ
HANNAH ARENDT
ABRAHAM BRICK
RABBI JESSURUN CARDOZO
ALBERT EINSTEIN
HERMAN EISEN, M.D.
HAYIM FINEMAN
M. GALLEN, M.D.
H.H. HARRIS
ZELIG S. HARRIS
SIDNEY HOOK
FRED KARUSH
BRURIA KAUFMAN
IRMA L. LINDHEIM
NACHMAN MAISEL
SEYMOUR MELMAN
MYER D. MENDELSON
M.D., HARRY M. OSLINSKY
SAMUEL PITLICK
FRITZ ROHRLICH
LOUIS P. ROCKER
RUTH SAGIS
ITZHAK SANKOWSKY
I.J. SHOENBERG
SAMUEL SHUMAN
M. SINGER
IRMA WOLFE
STEFAN WOLF.

New York, Dec. 2, 1948

In The Land of the B - 30 Dec 2010 14:32 - 4012 of 6906

I'm beginning to feel a tiny bit of pity for the parrot. There's just not much there is there..............

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:42 - 4013 of 6906

http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery04282009.html

An article written by an Israeli on the rise of fascism in Israel.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 14:48 - 4014 of 6906

Wrong thread

cynic - 30 Dec 2010 14:50 - 4015 of 6906

riverton, south australia

aldwickk - 30 Dec 2010 15:00 - 4016 of 6906

Doublespeak (sometimes called doubletalk) is language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., "downsizing" for layoffs), making the truth less unpleasant, without denying its nature. It may also be deployed as intentional ambiguity, or reversal of meaning (for example, naming a state of war "peace"). In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth, producing a communication bypass.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 17:14 - 4017 of 6906

Masoud Ganaim, an Israeli Arab Minister of Knesset (MK), representative of the Islamic Movement in Israel, and member of the Knesset Education Committee, promised on Thursday to bring discuss with Israeli Education Minister Gideon Sayer the issue of the school principal in Jaffa who banned students from speaking Arabic in his classrooms.

Arab students make up about half of School Z in Jaffa, where the incident occurred, and the principals justification was that Arabic was indecent. According to Ganaim, there was a double standard present in which Arabican official language of Israelwas banned whereas Russian Israeli students were allowed to speak Russian.

Ganaim said he would ask Sayer to take effective steps against the principal as an example to counter what he said was a growing tide of racism in Israeli schools. Earlier this week, students families demonstrated outside of the school in Jaffa.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 18:13 - 4018 of 6906

On December 24, Ecuador became the fifth Latin American country to recognize 'the Palestine state as free and independent within its borders since 1967.'

An accompanying statement read: "Sadly, the Middle East continues to face wars and violent events that have led to the death of many innocent people, a situation contrary to the humane and pacifist position established by the Ecuadorian Constitution. This recognition is meant to reinforce the valid and legitimate wish of the Palestin(ian) people to have their own free and independent state." Having it is "fundamental to achieve the peaceful co-existence of the nations in the region through dialogue and mediation."

On December 23, Uruguay said it planned to join Argentina, Brazil and Bolivia in granting recognition, though would formerly do so in January 2011.

Haystack - 30 Dec 2010 18:13 - 4019 of 6906

Israelis are about evenly split in support and opposition to the plan of a group of rabbis who say Jews should avoid selling or renting property to non-Jews, according to a recent survey.

Dozens of senior rabbis recently signed a letter advising Jews not to sell or rent property to non-Jews.

The new survey shows that 44 percent of Israelis are in favor of the letter's call while 48 percent oppose it.

Gausie - 30 Dec 2010 19:04 - 4020 of 6906

Haystack: "a group of rabbis who say Jews should avoid selling or renting property to non-Jews" So what's your point?

In the interests of evenhandedness, do you know what the penalty is in the West Bank for selling property to Jews?

Did you know that the seller is likely to face the death penalty?

I don't expect a response from Haystack to this post. He'll turn the usual blind eye.
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