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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

cynic - 12 Feb 2019 12:50 - 12461 of 12628

for your purposes maybe too short term
however, my gut feel is that 2010/2017 would be around 1.25 and post referendum about 1.18

KidA - 12 Feb 2019 13:33 - 12462 of 12628

Trimble's backstop challenge begins.

2517GEORGE - 12 Feb 2019 14:00 - 12463 of 12628

From todays C&C

The German data office originally thought the country had squeaked by with a flicker of growth in the fourth quarter, but City analysts say it will be forced to revise its figures after a blizzard of dire figures. German GDP contracted 0.8pc in the third quarter.

iturama - 12 Feb 2019 15:53 - 12464 of 12628

The EUโ€™s maladministration watchdog has accused the European Commission of ignoring its own rules when it appointed its most senior official last year.
The European Ombudsman criticised the lightning quick double promotion of Martin Selmayr, a close ally of Jean-Claude Juncker, as secretary general of the commission last year.
Mr Selmayr was promoted to deputy secretary-general of the commission at a February 21 meeting of the EU commissioners. Shortly afterwards, the secretary-general Alexander Italianer announced his retirement.
Mr Juncker, the president of the commission, promptly proposed the divisive Mr Selmayr take on the role, leaving shell-shocked commissioners to rubber stamp Mr Selmayr's appointment.

Well, who would have thought that the EU Commission was an autocracy? The question is what are they going to do about it? Nada. Anyone who watched BBC2 on how a small group negotiated a deal with Turkey on immigrants will realise that there is only one fuhrer in the EU, the rest of the "leaders" are there for decoration.

iturama - 12 Feb 2019 16:24 - 12465 of 12628

Who would have thought?

Britain could lead the world into a new era of democracy and free trade, using the Brexit revolt against the establishment as a springboard to making the global order more cooperative, accountable and prosperous, according to the Governor of the Bank of England.
The current system of global trade has key flaws including wealth and income inequality, a lack of democracy and trust, and serious financial imbalances, Mark Carney warned on Tuesday.
However, in a sharp departure from the Governor's "project fear" warnings of the past three years, Mr Carney said Brexit has the potential to upend these issues and provide the opportunity to create a new way of running the world.


Stan - 12 Feb 2019 16:51 - 12466 of 12628

What with these good for nothing "Con"artists in Government? You are obviously clearly drunk yet again to even dream that to be true. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

iturama - 12 Feb 2019 17:57 - 12467 of 12628

Calling you a moron would be an insult to all the thickos out there.

Stan - 12 Feb 2019 18:56 - 12468 of 12628

More personal abuse from the boardโ€™s personal abuser.

Dil - 12 Feb 2019 19:55 - 12469 of 12628

Wtf has Caney been smoking , I want some.

Biggest Brexit U turn I've seen so far.

Martini - 12 Feb 2019 21:46 - 12470 of 12628

I get a whiff of manipulation. Hmmmm

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:04 - 12471 of 12628

An interesting article:

https://russellinvestments.com/uk/blog/four-potential-outcomes-for-brexit

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:06 - 12472 of 12628

There is still room for M and M.

Claret Dragon - 13 Feb 2019 09:14 - 12473 of 12628

Article from Russel.

Sterling at parity with Euro if no deal.

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 09:45 - 12474 of 12628

Remember the Pound in your pocket!

8-)

cynic - 13 Feb 2019 09:59 - 12475 of 12628

ah happy days from 1967(!) of harold wilson with his false humble facade with pipe and gannex mac

Dil - 13 Feb 2019 10:05 - 12476 of 12628

Great read Fred.

Chance of remain 10%

Chance of single market custom Union deal 10%

Current deal in some form 50%

No deal Brexit 30%



So out we go then.

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 10:35 - 12477 of 12628

"Your revels now are ending. These your actors,
As is foretold by you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherits, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. You are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and your little life
Is rounded with a sleep."

Martini - 13 Feb 2019 10:41 - 12478 of 12628

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

Fred1new - 13 Feb 2019 10:55 - 12479 of 12628

O little englander, what fate will befall you?

hilary - 13 Feb 2019 11:02 - 12480 of 12628

The boy stood on the burning deck
And he was all a quiver
He had a cough
His leg fell off
And floated down the river.
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