Pre IPO price 4p
Opening price on debut 25p
Floatation price 46p to raise 14million to extend Jolly Ranch
Current fair value estimate 114p
Market cap 70.59 million.
Value of Cisco Springs investments 98 million.
Value of Vogel investments 75 million.
Desparado trucking now Nightfox 250,000 for a 50% stake with partner Running Foxes.
Centurion Project Kansas, 150,000 for a 50% stake.
Jolly Ranch Colorado, 40,000 acres cost 356,000 for a 50% stake.
Cash in bank 7.75 million.

As this EPIC opens on AIM today anything could happen. On the one hand you have traders trying to cash in a sixfold profit. You will also have a clambering of traders after shares because, firstly they could only get 75% of their allocation because of demand. Secondly at 25p this company is still way under valued.

have u not been sacked from halifax yet........how many tens of billions is that silly yorkshire building society losing

so are many shares ..... as i have previously posted, i hold these, but with no great enthusiasm or even expectation in the foreseeable .... would be delighted to be significantly wrong

HAWK's latest accounts show a net asset value of 49m of which 38m are intangibles what can justify a market cap of 90m with a turnover of 300k ,investors beware.

Buying in tomorrow.
At least they have a load of cash (over 20m) to develop these $bn assets which in these times is a plus.

i will continue to hold and buy at right price - this is worth a read from independent today: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/sharewatch/investment-column-nighthawk-will-emerge-from-the-pack-1799252.html

read it earlier and confess surprise at its bullishness and especially that some broker has put out a valuation of 225 (but without a time limit!)

i've read other reports with higher sp.........who cares about time limit.....suppose its 11am or 3.30pm with you cynic with us other mortals looking at about 12 months ahead but i bet i know who is winning, lol

market digesting this week news and now up more than 5p, more than 15% up now since news

now 40p.........6p up since news

yep onwards & upwards!

41p!
market now sensibly realising news and getting this right.......unlike cynic who reacts immediately with comments

more than 20% up since news

+7.38% as i write ..... i shall be pleased to live long enough to see 225!

i reckon a year or so cynic is all u need......no more than 2 years

i'll keep putting the money in the meter for my iron lung then!

Oil up nearly $2 as we speak...last time I looked and that was early afternoon it was down by a little..this changes very rapidly nowadays...pop out to get something and by the time you come back it's all changed....are we on the brink of a breakout for crude ?....there is resistance around $71 dollars...(WTI that is ).

Nice. At this rate, I may buy Halifax.

my uneducated guess is that crude will hover around $70/75, but of course if $ strengthens, then crude will fall - in $ terms that is ..... however, i do not think we'll $50 or even $60 .... i would say "ever again", but that would be very rash!

Only if fuel cells....hydrogen is rolled out for every car...one day in the future maybe ten years from now or more : that's what we will be using...oil will be for lubricating only by then...long way to go yet though...

I would have thought that by now the dollar would have been back to $2 to the pound but nothing of the sort : it's holding up well !.