HARRYCAT
- 15 Aug 2008 10:18
- 120 of 714
Ex-divi wed 20th Aug. 10.4p
230p is optimistic in the short term, imo.
BAYLIS
- 21 Aug 2008 11:07
- 121 of 714
ex divi and over 10p down.
janetbennison
- 21 Aug 2008 11:54
- 122 of 714
I hold bt as well. grim is it not. This has happened to me on quite a few of my holdings just lately. On quite a few occasion the shares can fall a lot more than the dividend that is paid out on the day. The market is terrible at the moment. My advice just sit tight and hope for the market to pick up. I bought 10000 of these at 1.98. not that long ago. There will be a lot of people out there in the same boat. So keep calm and wait.
BAYLIS
- 21 Aug 2008 12:29
- 123 of 714
CHEERS
HARRYCAT
- 21 Aug 2008 13:55
- 124 of 714
Chart is a bit of a worry as the sp has not been this low for over 5 years, so very difficult to pick a support level. BT have stopped their buyback program & are going down the fibre optic route which means much more expenditure, so my guess is that this isn't going to change significantly in the near future.
"BT's Ian Livingstone has made his first splash as chief executive announcing plans to roll out a major high-speed fibre optic network across the UK. The 1.5bn rollout aims to reach 10m homes by 2012, and BT is putting its 2.5bn share buy-back programme on hold to fund the project, which will increase capital expenditure by an additional 100m a year for the next two years."
Long term investment now, imo, if you are still holding.
halifax
- 21 Aug 2008 15:11
- 125 of 714
1.5billion over 4 years is not an enormous increase in capex but it is an investment in the company's future growth which other smaller competitors may find it difficult to match. If the alternative is a share buyback program in a bear market I for one as a shareholder would rather see these funds invested in the business to generate more revenue.
bristlelad
- 21 Aug 2008 19:53
- 126 of 714
Hear Hear//i say
spitfire43
- 26 Aug 2008 23:13
- 127 of 714
With the yield now 10% I couldn't resist, brought some more today at 164p, no idea where the bottom could be be, so have held funds back to purchase more lower down.
I didn't know that BT now have 33% of the UK broadband market, and will hopefully if things go well be a major player outside of the UK.
See the link below which is the first interview with the new chief exec Ian Livingstone. He seems to come over pretty well and makes some interesting points.
www.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7568466.stm
brianboru
- 27 Aug 2008 07:04
- 128 of 714
BT is considering the sale of its 31 per cent stake in Tech Mahindra, the India-listed software services firm, having decided that the holding does not fit its long-term strategy.
The UK telecoms company is keen to sell all or a large part of its stake in the joint venture, which has a market capitalisation of about $2.2bn, according to people with knowledge of the situation...... FT
Toya
- 27 Aug 2008 07:49
- 129 of 714
This is from The Times last week (23 Aug):
Rumour of the day
BT, the telecoms group, received a welcome boost, rising 5.5p to 167.8p, as speculation in the City suggested that a Dubai-based investment group was interested in making an offer for the company. Dubai International Capital ruled itself out of the running; however, it is not the only player in the petrodollar-rich region capable of making such a bid.
spitfire43
- 27 Aug 2008 17:12
- 130 of 714
I would imagine there are plenty of sovereign funds waiting to pounce on key assets, when they start to make moves on companies like BT it might be a good indicator of reaching the bottom.
I know the markets always look forward, but it doesn't feel like we are there just yet.
mitzy
- 23 Sep 2008 17:38
- 131 of 714
Now 165p could fall further in next 12 months.
queen1
- 24 Sep 2008 22:39
- 132 of 714
What kind of comment is that - "could fall further in next 12 months"? Of course it could. It could also go up in the next 12 months. Or it could stay the same over the next 12 months. My prediction will be a combination of all 3 options. Now that's insightful....
mitzy
- 24 Sep 2008 22:41
- 133 of 714
Ok 100p then if you must insist..lol.
nfcc8
- 25 Sep 2008 09:28
- 134 of 714
Goldman Sachs Global Investment Research 1
ACTION
Buy
BT Group (BT.L)
Return Potential: 31%
Beaten up valuation, levers to pull, upgrade to Buy
Source of opportunity
BT has underperformed the sector by 20% ytd and 40% over 12 months, as
prospective margin expansion at Global Services and the benefits of its
21CN network investment have been deferred, LLU has impacted BT
Wholesale and its pension scheme has headed into deficit. In our view, the
downside risks are now substantially discounted in the price. We also
believe the dividend commitment (9.7% yield) can be met and note that
LLU net adds are now less than half the rate of six months ago. We believe
management has scope to act on costs and the stock provides attractive
option value over improved earnings visibility. We upgrade to Buy.
Growth
Returns *
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Investment Profile: BT Group
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Percentile 20th 40th 60th 80th 100th
* Returns = Return on Capital For a complete description of the
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BT.L
Europe Telecom Services Peer Group Average
Catalyst
BTs fiscal 2Q results are due on November 13, 2008 and we expect the
company to both deliver on its dividend commitment at the interim stage
(5.5p forecast of a full year total of 16p) and to increase its focus on cost
control and FCF generation. OFCOM is to publish its second consultation
document on access network pricing this autumn, a potentially significant
positive for the group, in our view. The triennial pension scheme valuation
is priced at end-December 2008 but will not be published probably until
around the time of the full-year results due in May 2009, for which our EPS
estimate rises 5.1% to 23.5p.
Valuation
Our 12 month DCF-based price target falls 14% to 215p (US$39.37 per
ADR) due to a higher pension deficit, lower Global Services EBITDA and
allowing for the final dividend going ex.
Key risks
Risks to our view include the fact that the dividend might be at risk if the
company feels it needs more financing flexibility; slowing fixed
broadband, lack of demonstrable benefits to date from the 21CN
investment and uncertain pension financing.
INVESTMENT LIST MEMBERSHIP
Pan-Europe Buy List
Coverage View: Attractive
United Kingdom:
Telecom Services
Key data Current
Price (p) 164
12 month price target (p) 215
Upside/(downside) (%) 31
BT Price ($) 30.09
BT 12 month price target ($) 39.37
Market cap ( mn) 12,781.5
Enterprise value ( mn) 24,896.5
3/08 3/09E 3/10E 3/11E
EPS (p) New 24.39 23.48 22.71 22.70
EPS (p) Old 24.39 22.34 23.27 24.99
BT EPS ($) New 4.77 4.59 4.44 4.44
BT EPS ($) Old 4.77 4.37 4.55 4.89
P/E (X) 12.0 7.0 7.2 7.2
BT P/E (X) 6.9 7.0 6.8 6.8
EV/EBITDA (X) 5.3 4.3 4.2 4.1
Dividend yield (%) 5.4 9.8 9.8 9.8
CROCI (%) 11.4 10.2 9.2 8.6
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BT Group (L) FTSE World Europe (GBP) (R)
Share price performance (%) 3 month 6 month12 month
Absolute (27.8) (31.3) (46.9)
Rel. to FTSE World Europe (18.5) (24.1) (41.0)
Source: Company data, Goldman Sachs Research estimates, FactSet. Price as of 8/26/2008 close.
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queen1
- 25 Sep 2008 19:08
- 135 of 714
If it goes to 100p mitzy, which I don't think it will, it'll be snapped up.
mitzy
- 25 Sep 2008 19:11
- 136 of 714
I'm not really saying it will queen1 but at that price I will buy given that GS are suggesting 215p target..
queen1
- 26 Sep 2008 13:15
- 137 of 714
Indeed.....
pauldarrall
- 26 Sep 2008 21:46
- 138 of 714
Tipped by three of The Four Wise Monkeys including David Stevenson (FT/Investors Chronicle). Website address below.
http://www.4wm.co.uk
mitzy
- 26 Sep 2008 21:51
- 139 of 714
IC tipped BA a month back at 250p now 195p.. and JKX at 405p a month ago now 300p.