apple
- 31 Aug 2004 01:06
Bisichi Mining
What do you think?
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Bischi = black, Anglo and Pacific = Red, ATH Resources (new float)= Blue.
Thanks to Goldfinger for flagging it up.
goldfinger
- 13 Oct 2004 12:07
- 121 of 196
Lifted off another board, looks like the tip from late last week..........
Soaring prices and black empowerment help Bisichi succeed
Two key factors lie behind the startling recent success of Bisichi. First is the dramatically rising coal price which has doubled, from $30 to $60 a tonne just since last April. This in turn reflects soaring demand in China, which has gone from being an exporter of coal to a net importer sucking in coal from Asia and Africa.
The second factor is black empowerment. Bisichi went the whole hog on black empowerment by selling a 37.5 per cent stake in its Black Wattle Colliery to a black-controlled company, which has then been instrumental in opening many doors to the company.
In particular black empowerment status has enabled Bisichi to become an exporter of coal through Richards Bay Coal Terminal. The company says that the long-term export contract it has been able to negotiate locks in a significant profit margin.
It is complicated to calculate exactly what effect a rising coal price has on Bisichi because of the mix of production between exports, coal sold into the local market and low phosphorous coal sold at a premium to furnaces producing stainless steel. At the half-year stage for the first six months of calendar 2004 the group said that average selling prices for coal were 21 per cent higher than in the second half of 2003. Since then the coal price has risen further.
Investors were initially disappointed when the interims showed profits falling from 746,000 to 726,000 with operating profits down from 1.00m to 883,000. However the company says this was a very good performance because it came despite needing to move all three mining sections at the Black Wattle Colliery during the period to exploit new reserves.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 13 Oct 2004 12:34
- 122 of 196
Some interesting ratios on Bisi , just to keep us up to date.........
Investment Ratios
(Market value analysis) at previous day's close
PQ Ratio Premium Silver Data
PE Ratio 20.35
Tobin's Q Ratio Premium Silver Data
Tobin's Q Ratio (excl. intangibles) Premium Silver Data
Dividend Yield 0.93 %
Market-to-Book Ratio 1.82
Price-to-Pre-Tax Profit PS Premium Silver Data
Price-to-Retained Profit PS 25.07
Price-to-Cash Flow PS 9.35
Price-to-Sales PS 2.32
Price-to-Net Tangible Asset Value PS 1.85
Price-to-Cash PS 37.30
So with a P/E of 20 it cant be said to be presently cheap but please bear in mind thats the historic P/E. I feel the forward P/E is in the region of 13/14 based on the figures that it made just over 1 million after tax last year and this year we are looking at massive increases in coking coal prices, new machinery , 3 new mine heads and a quicker route to market, plus a re- evaluation of property assets. I would therefore estimate profit after tax of in the region of 1.5 million which would place it on a p/e of circa 13. Still very cheap and should have a lot further to run.
cheers GF.
bigbobjoylove
- 13 Oct 2004 15:12
- 123 of 196
been topping up yesterday and today,now in excess off 15000 shares.Target is 500p which should be reached when property portfolio is revalued.
mickeyskint
- 13 Oct 2004 15:15
- 124 of 196
BBJL
When will that be?
MS
goldfinger
- 14 Oct 2004 13:27
- 125 of 196
DOWN, 'they cannot be serious.
cheers GF.
apple
- 14 Oct 2004 14:45
- 126 of 196
Well, I took a tiny profit on this the other day & walked away.
I much prefer APF, no property worries there.
GF
You like the property story on BISI, I am a lot more cautious about it.
You are probably right & I am probably wrong so good luck with it.
goldfinger
- 14 Oct 2004 23:34
- 127 of 196
Might even add in the morning. Still think theres plenty left in it.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2004 12:11
- 128 of 196
Back up again, usually does well on a friday afternoon for some reason.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 16 Oct 2004 03:15
- 129 of 196
Here's some more bullish comment on the price of coking coal:
07.10.04: shares in BHP Billiton and Rio Tinto were higher in afternoon trade as Dresdner Kleinwort Wasserstein said the two blue chip miners remain its top picks in the UK listed mining sector, dealers said. In an upbeat note on the sector, the German broker said it believes the mining sector offers superior earnings growth compared to the market with EPS forecast risk still on the upside. It added it has raised EPS estimates again, principally for the bulk commodities and oil. It now forecasts a 22% increase in iron ore prices and a 60% rise for coking coal in 2005. The broker said it retained a preference for bulk commodities, particularly iron ore and coking coal exposure as these commodities boast the most attractive medium-term fundamentals, and therefore have a stronger case for a higher multiple of peak cycle earnings in 2005.
(from InvestorEase.)
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 18 Oct 2004 00:36
- 130 of 196
A 60% rise in coking coal for 2005, just think how that will effect the bottom line at bisi.
I feel forward P/W is circa of 13, but this could be way to high. Certainly time left to get in this one.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 18 Oct 2004 12:35
- 131 of 196
And its up again.
cheers GF.
bigbobjoylove
- 18 Oct 2004 12:39
- 132 of 196
certainly one of the cheapest miners around that looks like it could have plenty of upside from 200p level.
goldfinger
- 19 Oct 2004 11:52
- 133 of 196
I agree big bob and up again today. Still much further to go. Forward P/E only 13. Cheap very cheap.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 19 Oct 2004 15:48
- 134 of 196
Gone even further up.
cheers GF.
bigbobjoylove
- 19 Oct 2004 22:08
- 135 of 196
gf not wanting to spoil ya fun but no need for day 2 day comment re price movement.Relax this should have no problem doubling in quick time from here and it would still be well under market cap of 50 mill.Just top up on the dips proving very successful.
goldfinger
- 20 Oct 2004 01:15
- 136 of 196
Yup big bob, but I like to keep it in the spotlight so that potential investors dont miss out.
Its a fact that on BBs like this most people just look at the top half of the page, it was proved on a US site. So not trying to be funny just wish to keep it there in the lime light.
AND DONT FORGET THE FORWARD P/E OF ONLY 13.
cheers GF.
bigbobjoylove
- 20 Oct 2004 05:52
- 137 of 196
ok will bring to top daily,quite like volatility though but too wide a spread to trade.Some major catchin up to do compared toits foreign peers now as well,big chance of a bid here i do believe.
moneyplus
- 20 Oct 2004 11:29
- 138 of 196
Keep posting I'm in this one now! Hope it continues up.
goldfinger
- 20 Oct 2004 12:10
- 139 of 196
Nice to have you on board moneyplus.
cheers GF.
goldfinger
- 20 Oct 2004 23:54
- 140 of 196
ReaDY TO RESUME UPWARD MOMENTUM.
cheers GF.