goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 08:09
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has i posted yesterday the eu needs growth you do NOT get growth putting up vat
it destoys companys and people stop buying goods .
the leaders running these countrys are fools .
they need to look back in history and look at M/S those to new the game
ahoj
- 09 Dec 2011 08:21
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So, Britain and Hungary haven't agreed yet.
Are they so important to wait for?
I think they cannot agree without Hungary, so Britain should make her decision!!!
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 08:27
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the eu is a one way street and it is not for the brits only for the rest of europe
benefits and services are only for people coming to the uk .
if brits go to europe they will get no help .
ourservices have been drained with one way traffic
greekman
- 09 Dec 2011 08:41
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It may not be diplomatic, but the UK should tell Germany and France just were to go.
We should only obey those treaty clauses and rules, where we will benefit, and ignore those where we don't.
I can already hear people crying out that this is something we can't do, but just think that many clauses/rules that any new treaty will contain, will be enforced on the UK, by default, even if we do not become a signatory.
We are heading quickly back to the days of Germany and their friends telling other countries including the UK.
'You vil do vot we say, Ya'
Cameron should reply along the lines of, 'Listen carefully, I will say zis only vonce'.
ahoj
- 09 Dec 2011 08:43
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I am inclined to agree with you based on cost/benefit assessment. I think at the end of the day, these are temporary noises which should be ignored. Whatever happens, the world/countries/people will adjust themselves.
In fact, many companies are benefitting from the crises as there is no new investment, no new company or bank result in monopoly.
How many large bank exist in the world which can be relied on by big countries? The number has rapidly declined. That's extremely good for those who survive.
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 08:59
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lets get out close our borders send the migrants back home .
then the uk will get back to being a great country not full of migrants
taking benefits that they have never put into .
we do not need a vote we all no the result
Fred1new
- 09 Dec 2011 09:03
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Congratulations.
The tories destroyed the manufacturing and heavy industry base of the UK in favour of the Service industries and "city".
This government represents the "City" and is financed by it i.e, in hock to it.
Cameron and Osborne have sacrificed the well-being of the UK and Europe for their political needs.
Some are interested in their legacy or place in history. I would think next to Chamberlain and Bliar.
Europe was fed up with the UK and are probably glad to see back of the UK.
The financial centres will move to from the UK to France and Germany.
Sheer madness and the UK will regret it.
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All I have heard from our gallant heroic duo and the phobic tory right, is "what we want and get from Europe" and "not can we achieve with Europe".
Political adolescence.
ahoj
- 09 Dec 2011 09:17
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I think UK will stay out for now, then come back when details are clearer.
Cameron should understand that the UK will benefit from Euro(pe) as soon as growth come back. No matter if we are in out out, but joining no is better now, when crises are at its peak.
Dil
- 09 Dec 2011 09:17
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Leave Germany , France and its bust mates to it I say ... come home Cameron.
skinny
- 09 Dec 2011 09:19
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From a Welshman :-)
Dil
- 09 Dec 2011 09:20
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Wonder if Scotland will join when they leave the Union ?
Dil
- 09 Dec 2011 09:21
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We'll never go bust here in Wales skinny ... keep sending the subsidies :-)
Fred1new
- 09 Dec 2011 09:25
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Scotland.
Yes.
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 09:32
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fred . i get nothing out of the uk being in the eu nothing only pay more tax .
i can not even get medical free when i go on holiday we have to take out insurance
yet all thses immigrants coming here get them free and you can not get to see your doctor because it is full of immigrsants and yes i do have the facts as my sistr in law is in the business they are over run by them the doctors in spain and france sayyou payme and i will see you.
Dil
- 09 Dec 2011 09:32
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Oh well , they'll be in worse state than Ireland in a few years then.
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 09:34
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greece is bust because no one thinks they should pay taxes and they are not on
there own . greece will never change get in a taxi and all they want to do is rip you
off so they lose out go on the bus
Dil
- 09 Dec 2011 09:35
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Only reason France and Germany are doing anything now is because it's in their own interest to do so ... remember how they refused to help us the day we were forced to withdraw from the ERM ?
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 09:58
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fred what do the taxpayers get out of being in the eu .
i can think of nothing only immigration
TANKER
- 09 Dec 2011 10:28
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of the new finacial tax it wants the uk to pay 81%of it .
and the german and french 6% and 4%and then they want to control
the finacial sector in the eu .
has no one told them it is them that are incapable of running a soup kitchen