Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

3. Live by OUR rules !

Don't you mean the European rules ?

3.Dress as we ,BRITS do.

And how do we dress ?

No rant against vegetation's i see , must have forgotten. Does he/she want them to eat the food we eat, and end up like the average fat jogging pants , football shirt wearing , and tattoo infested binge drinking moron's that walk our streets.

Aldwickk,

Dress as we do, probably not meant literally, but don't dress in clothes that offend us IE the Burka.

I think some "Brits" would look and be less offensive if they wore the Burka!

The British burka is the hoodie

OK, I give up.
Hoodie does not cover the full face apart from the eyes if worn correctly, IE not to intentionally hide the full face.
Also, I know of no instance where the hoodie was refused to be removed on religious grounds, whereas the Burka removal if demanded would be at high risk of the requester being sued for damages.

What does it matter what somebody chooses to wear?How insecure is a person who finds clothes offensive?We have nasty vile people born and bred in Britain and always have had. We should not confuse people who arrive here in an effort to gain a better life for themselves and their offsprings with those who actively conspire against the nation in order to bring about change only wanted by a small minority. The way to defeat this treachery is to embrace the friends of the nation, of whatever race or creed. Make them feel part of our society so that in time they will rebuff those forces that conspire against us. We should weed out the rot and ensure that our laws are robust enough to deter would be offenders. Answer me this" Where would you send a second or third generation immigrant dissident"? Their home country is here.If you look at the number of people who have left this country to take up residence in France or Spain. Do they learn the lingo? Do they spread themselves around the local community??Do they eat local food?? This does not mean that they are persecuted. We would all like to see a return to the old Britain with winding lanes, real ale, and corner shops. It is not going to happen. Work to breaking down barriers not building walls.

"We would all like to see a return to the old Britain with winding lanes, real ale, and corner shops. It is not going to happen.".. There still there if you choose to look for them BB.

bb,

I agree with the sentiments of your posting.

However, there is a problem with the Burka and Hoodies in that they can be and used to hide identity and also sometimes to hide weaponry.

Not sure the most appropriate methods to deal with these problems. Banning the dress supposedly worn on cultural or religious beliefs seems fraught with dangers.

Personally, although I can see the advantage to the wearers of these garbs in the winter, I feel sorry for the women who have to wear the dress in Summer, when we have the latter.

According to my daughters it is very important what I wear and, it seems, that I do not dress the way that I should. Mind you the time that I bought a really trendy outfit they were horrified when I wore it to a school parents day.

er indoors is two decades younger than me and I work to a simple rule let her buy the clothes!! I just wear what she says.

New Labour under Tony Blair broke down the barriers when we should have been building walls [ border control's that worked without any interference from Europe ]

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Hi Beebusy,

I have no problem what anyone does or wears in this country as long as it does not impede on my/our way of life.
If I go to another country, either as a tourist or as an immigrant, I would expect to abide by their laws.
If I did not agree with these laws (not their punishments), I would not go.

I give 2 scenarios.

1
A serious crime is committed in the UK.
Several witnesses state that the perpetrator was an eastern looking female who was wearing a Hijab, decent facial descriptions given.
Police search the area and near the scene find a group of Muslim women, some wearing the Hijab and some with the addition of a Burka.
Suspecting that the suspect may be one of the females, now wearing a Burka, they request that these women remove the item in order for the officers to see if any match the description.
Women refuse and are arrested as suspects.
Imagine the questions asked at a later date of the Police involved. Just think of the media coverage and possible compensation claims.

2
A serious crime is committed in Iran.
Several witnesses etc, etc.
Description is of a white European looking youth, with a hooded jacket, hood down.
Good descriptions re facial features.
Group of similar dressed youth found near scene, all with hood up and scarves covering faces.
Police request (demand more like) that hood/scarves are removed.
Youths refuse.
I am sure you can guess the rest.

I have no problem with beliefs, way of life or anything else that does not effect the UK way of life.
When it does, it should not be allowed.

Tolerance is like free speech, they are both fine until it benefits the minority whilst disadvantaging the majority.

Off topic , Greekman, any idea who will win the Mayweather v Cotto ? Manny Pacman destroyed Cotto. I don't know why Manny is fighting his next opponent he beat him before. I think Manny is having to many hard fights and Mayweather is waiting for him to have one to many , which could well be his next fight. If Mayweather win's the Cotto fight the Pac Man fight will take place.

The Burka: it cuts both ways, of course. The BBC's John Simpson escaped through hostile territory in Afghanistan by wearing a burka, as I recall. Just as well he didn't encounter any Taliban who liked large girls.

Hi Aldwickk,

Mayweather to win by a knockout, ref stopping the fight or Cotto unable to continue, but it will be damn close.

MightyMicro,

Well it would have give J Simpson a new experience to talk about.

Greek.

The reason that we can have these conversations is that we live in a free and tolerant society. Like many I am appalled by the treatment received by females in some society's. Education and example goes alongway to changing this mind set. I have a theory that this treatment is brought about by fear as by in large the females of these societies show a degree of intelingence which if allowed to blossom would bring about change and prosperity to these countries and without the need for bloodshed.Lasting peace will not be found in the barrel of a gun but when the common people find their voices and state enough is enough. Just look at the events in Egypt,Libya, and Syria.Change is coming and not just in the middle east. People want a level of accountability by ministers, bankers, social workers,etc, It is a same to say that won the right to vote we are left in the sorry situation of who do you vote for? We need a leader who works for the people and with the people, to right the wrongs in our society. Such a person has yet to rise but they will. Bare in mind that with all that is percieved to be wrong in our society it is still one of the best places to live in the world .

Well said.

bb,

Be careful if "er indoors" buys anything white for you.





It could turn out to be a shroud!

I am more concerned about her threats to by something white for herself!!!!