IanT(MoneyAM)
- 10 Jan 2008 13:37
If you have any enhancements you would like to see to the service, or you have spotted a bug anywhere, please feel free to post here and we will investigate as necessary.
Alternatively, you can email any bugs or enhancements to support@moneyam.com
Thanks
Ian
Geoff(MoneyAM)
- 23 Jan 2008 15:11
- 163 of 599
kate,
working on it now
best regards,
geoff
kate bates
- 23 Jan 2008 15:12
- 164 of 599
thanks. Not a problem today until that stock.
Seymour Clearly
- 23 Jan 2008 17:31
- 165 of 599
Guys, what has happened to the indu data - no chart and no figures for it.
Kyoto
- 24 Jan 2008 02:08
- 166 of 599
The amazing thing is that there aren't more people complaining about it. Are there so few people trying to trade off MoneyAM level 2? Etrade for one would be would going ballistic I would have thought.
Isaacs - there just doesn't seem any point in complaining to MoneyAM once they've been made aware of a problem. I think we want them to be British Airways on a good day but actually what we've had of late is easyJet on a bad one, and that's more than a simple analogy; fundamentally MoneyAM is a low-cost carrier and I'm convinced that by design it will never provide the level of service serious traders require, even if they fix the current engine problems.
I decided to stop complaining to MoneyAM a few years ago and recently I've even stopped holding it against them because I think the low-cost model is flawed, but it's probably the only one which is profitable outside the world of Reuters and Bloomberg. It's what Bill Gates allegedly said to Steve Jobs (or did say in 'Pirates of Silicon Valley') when the latter realised Microsoft were producing their own graphical interface back in the 80s - "It will never be as good as ours", to which Bill replied "You don't understand, it doesn't matter - it will be just good enough".
Personally I wish there was a middle ground - I'd pay more for a reliable service that didn't give me bad data. I keep meaning to look into services such as Proquote but it doesn't seem like many people are using them and they don't go out of their way to advertise pricing which is not a good sign. And I like MoneyAM's Terminal - can I replicate it with another service? I have ADVFN as a backup Level 1 provider and Digital Look via Barclays as an backup Level 2, and about three other trading platform provided Level 1 systems and another Level 2 system besides. ADVFN and Barclays are unreliable as well but I've found that with three or four data providers you can usually find someone who's not having a bad day. I like trading UK equities and I'm sometimes quite good at it too - my non-equity trading is not as profitable so I stick to my circle of competence - but I've seriously considered stopping the equity trading simply because of the bad data feeds.
We need reliable services, and we need innovation. Many years ago now a group of people got fed up with ESI/Etrade and ADVFN was born. I've been waiting for the next break-away movement with whom I can share my vision of a next-generation trading site (I've got four years of would-be suggestions to MoneyAM written down), but it's not going to happen. This isn't the dot-com boom any more, there's probably no money in it, and nobody cares enough. We all want Apple-like quality, but when we vote with our wallets we pay for Microsoft-style crap and put up with the shit that comes with it.
I don't know what Etrade's story is - but obviously they're running a pick-and-mix service (does that make them Woolworths?) with Saxobank and MoneyAM's Level 2. They're losing about 50 in commissions per day at the moment from me in trades I don't place because their Level 2 becomes unreliable, unreadable or untrustworthy. I'm long past caring there as well - I'd suggest they aren't going ballistic - they just don't care either. What they have is 'good enough'.
You know, I'm stuck in South Korea because a Government Officer presented a false case against my wife and I when we applied for a spousal visa to return to live in the UK. I have evidence in black and white that the facts established in the interview were different to the 'facts' stated in our refusal. They don't care. The Government also said I had to prove that I intended to live permanently in the UK when I returned, and they said that I couldn't even though I'd stated this as my intention and I still own a house back home. So they're calling me a liar. They call their invented fantasies about all that is potentially possible in your life 'the balance of probabilities', because anything they choose to envisage is probable - if they decide it is - on no evidence at all. Contrary to all principles of British and European law I am guilty until proven innocent and I can't live in my own country, possibly for the rest of my life. To all intents and purposes I've been exiled by my own Government - and I'm not the only one. I'm so stunned by the incompetence or quote-chasing maliciousness of it that I've decided to write a book about the whole affair. But when all's said and done nobody who matters really gives a damn. If people can't be bothered that their countries are quietly turning into fascist states, where Government Officers can make false statements and where the requirement is not on them to prove their case, but on you to disprove what their imaginations can conjure up, what hope is there for us to do anything about bad stock-market data?
Everyone probably skim-read this :-)
Bullshare
- 24 Jan 2008 07:16
- 167 of 599
Kyoto; I didn't skim read ! The problem with level 2 is two fold, the shear volume of data and the way it arrives to the end user. There are so many links in the chain that it takes the mearest of glitches, nanoseconds, for data to be lost between the exchange and end user. What is odd about the set up for delivery of data is that many suppliers of data, in our case Comstock, take in the data from Stock exchanges around the world, pump it over to their ticker plants in the US then pump it all the way back to the UK. Any lag in comms is not noticed by most companies as they only redistribute level 1 data, but level 2 data is a different kettle of fish, one lost new order, a lost filled order or a lost deleted order creates rogues.
I can tell you we are not happy with any lags or outages on any MoneyAM product, our uptime is very very high, but could be better and that is something we constantly address.
Seymour Clearly
- 24 Jan 2008 07:38
- 169 of 599
INDU not found - you still haven't answered my query about the DOW.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 07:40
- 170 of 599
Seymour,
Apologies for the delay this is a known problem which James is aware of and is working on.
Ian
Kayak
- 24 Jan 2008 08:18
- 171 of 599
Of course the problem with rogue prices is not the chance of orders being lost along the no doubt complex pathway from exchange to my terminal. Any half decent real-time system needs to be designed with that possibility in mind (and I know because I used to design them decades ago :-) ).
It is the fact that someone along the chain of systems seems to have made no provision for restoring data that has been corrupted, i.e., doing a general reset of the order books to what they should be. That would enable subscribers to recover stability and confidence in seconds or minutes rather than hours. The facility used to be there on the other side. I don't know whether the problem is at Comstock or MoneyAM or somewhere else, but it is a very serious one.
I'm guessing that it is mainly at Comstock and that there is a large cost implication in moving away from them, since the issue has been mentioned once or twice before :-)
As you know I'm hugely supportive but this issue does really bring you down.
required field
- 24 Jan 2008 08:46
- 172 of 599
Ian, there seems to be a problem with risers and fallers again, ex : AFR +10% ..?
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 08:48
- 173 of 599
required,
Apologies this is a linked issue - and is being worked on.
Ian
kate bates
- 24 Jan 2008 08:58
- 174 of 599
rogue orders in DRX.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 08:59
- 175 of 599
kate,
Apologies - we will look into this.
Ian
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 08:59
- 176 of 599
kate,
please refresh
Isaacs
- 24 Jan 2008 09:00
- 177 of 599
Dud orders on PRU as well.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 09:02
- 178 of 599
Isaacs,
Pelase can you refresh,
Ian
Dil
- 24 Jan 2008 09:47
- 179 of 599
Non streaming still not working - day four.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 24 Jan 2008 09:49
- 180 of 599
Dil,
Again please accept my apologies
I understand your frustration, and as soon as we can get the additional data base capacity in place this will be solved. It is not a simple task to complete, but we are working to get this resolved as soon as possible,
Ian
ExecLine
- 24 Jan 2008 10:17
- 182 of 599
Kyoto
I didn't skim read either (Your post 167). However, I'm confused about what you say because it seems to be a bit of a contradiction, probably because I'm not quite sure which country your wife is actually in.
You know, I'm stuck in South Korea because a Government Officer presented a false case against my wife and I when we applied for a spousal visa to return to live in the UK.
Further on, you use the phrase, 'my own country'. Is this actually the UK?
Surely the Korean official is correct when he says how you couldn't prove it was your intention to 'prove' it was your intention to permanently live in the UK. How could anyone 'prove' it is their intention to permanently live anywhere? What on earth is the relevance of this, anyway?
When you say you've been exiled by 'your own government', I take this to mean the Korean government. Am I correct? Is it the UK government which you feel has exiled you? Your Kyoto nickname has more of a Korean ring to it than say, Fred, Tom, Dick or Harry. If you and your wife are of Korean extraction, then why would you mind being stuck there so much?
Anyhow, can you please tell a bit more? Perhaps I for one am missing some basics.