Sharemess
- 19 Jul 2004 20:37
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Oh well. Someone posted it anyway. It wasn't me.
Tradx
- 19 Jul 2004 20:49
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Sharemess,
My apologies! It was me; I didn't read your request to post it elsewhere, so also my apologies to Tim as well. As it was on a public bb and I did urge all there to register here :-) I didn't think it would hurt, in fact I thought it would clear up some of the more misinformed on 'that' thread.
I continue to track the company in the hope that an opportunity as leaked by the various press comments will present itself.
Once again, my apologies if I have acted rudely or discourteously.
jonny wilkinson
- 19 Jul 2004 20:50
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Re Post Office Deal
I suggest contact Post Office senior management who will be very happy to confirm if there is even a grain of truth in what Tim Freeborn has written. I'm very concerned Tim Freeborn appears to have purchased 1.2m shares having it seems been made an 'insider'since RC confirmed to him a deal was done with Post Office before the market has been told, if true a very serious offence and should be reported to FSA without delay.
Its interesting Tim mentions ' there should be little danger of financial difficulties before revenues build up'. Interesting comment when one considers June staff salaries paid friday 16 July ( as i understand should be paid 4th friday june )AS USUAL VERIFY THIS INFORMATION
Tim i suggest you do more thorough research on EPO before writing further articles which are potentially misleading.
Re Baltimore Threatened Litigation. I understand Baltimore Lawyers appointed to defend any such actions, make no mistake ,firm appointed will enjoy preserving their reputation as one of the leading law firms in the city, EPO will also have to find some money to lodge into court should they wish to proceed, watch this space !!!!!!!!!
apple
- 19 Jul 2004 22:04
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Tradx
you say you urged all there to register here!
I wish you hadn't!
Now we will get all those people calling each other names on here & clogging up all the threads with insults.
mikeowen
- 19 Jul 2004 22:32
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SSANEBS
Either you or Tim (or both) are continually being made a lug off. This was in Tims posting after shareholders meeting. I would tend to belief Tim would you?
The Chinese contract starts generating cash in July. Already over 800,000 cards have been issued. The Chinese government intends to roll them into southern China. They will include three biometric measures. Earthport is not guaranteed the payments contract in Guangdong but seems very likely to get it. The province has over 40m transient workers who the Chinese are having trouble taxing. ID cards are really tax cards.
timfreeborn
- 19 Jul 2004 22:51
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To Johnny Wilkinson,
You include the weasel qualification 'potentially' in your posting where you accuse me of a criminal offence which carries a prison sentence. There are also laws of libel. They carry no prison sentence, just 'potentially' heavy damages.
I didn't buy any shares in this company until I published. And even then I made a point of not being an early purchaser precisely because this would have been to take advantage. And I then held my shares and watched them fall, along with other investors.
As for checking claims, it is very hard to pursue this sort of inquiry. Sometimes it's possible, sometimes not. Earthport is especially difficult in this respect because its product is invisible and often white label. I did check out the relationship with Betfair and the company gave Earthport a glowing endorsement. Fine, except Earthport itself said in May that take-up from the betting firms has been slow. That is why it decided to counter by launching the ensurepay product, a rival to Neteller, in the US.
Finally, and this quote has gnawed at me since January, Rob Cunningham said back then: 'We only believe 30% of what we tell ourselves.'
At the time I took this as a merry quip and, in any case, not a cause of concern provided he delivered 30%, or just 10%, of the deals he was chasing.
Time will tell, meantime go easy on the libels.
Tim Freeborn BA ACA
apple
- 19 Jul 2004 23:22
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Thanks for that Tim.
Sorry to see Johnny Wilkinson on here with that kind of attack.
BTW
What are your views on the relationships that EPO had with companies such as Gelande?
ssanebs
- 20 Jul 2004 00:20
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Johnny wilkinson
get your facts right before posting. TF tipped the stock and told investors the potential of EPO if it delivered. To accuse TF of writing misleading comments is rubbish, if anyone has mislead investors it is RC. But lets give him a bit longer to deliver.
mikeowen
- 20 Jul 2004 08:21
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Tim either you expose Mr Cunningham publicly for what he is now or risk your reputation and destroy your future as a financial tipster and the credibility of your employers at shares magazine. I bought on your tip but I just feel it was just a bunch of lies and you do not seem to notice that and continue to add to them. I'm not saying it is your fault but something has gone amiss somewhere.
ssanebs
- 20 Jul 2004 09:15
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I suggest you call 02079071100 and speak to RC and make your own conclusion. in my conversation he is adamant that he has not misinformed anyone, but to keep invstors updated he gave timings which have been missed.In the future he will not give anymore. I dont think he is lying and that is why i still hold my 3m shares, even though now i wish i had never bought them!
Tradx
- 20 Jul 2004 09:29
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apple,
Sorry, I didn't think about the negative aspects of that! Anyway, Tim has given a pretty robust response, which from a journalist is refreshing to read. Wont do it again...:-(
regards to all.
apple
- 20 Jul 2004 09:53
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oneill
You said, "Guys dont attack JW he has a right to put his point accross."
NO he DOESN'T have the right to make that kind of attack!
Especially when (as pointed out by Tim) he is protecting himself from libel action by the weasel word 'potentially' & this allows him to go ahead & say it anyway.
I was critical of the following words in the original article,
"Earthport heads for the sky
Earthport (EPO) offers a staggering opportunity"
BUT apart from that WE MUST ALL DO OUR OWN RESEARCH!
You can see Tims reply to me by clicking here
oneill you said, "1p hear we come." so we know where you stand on this share & I suppose you will be making as many negative comments as possible hoping to get there.
apple
- 20 Jul 2004 09:59
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Tradx
Never mind, too late now!
Oh well, it was bound to happen eventually, I just wish we had had more time before this thread started to degenerate.
apple
- 20 Jul 2004 10:03
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oneill you said, "1p hear we come."
That is how!
WOODIE
- 20 Jul 2004 10:53
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read my post 322 dont blame tim or others for a falling share price learn by your mistakes in the furture.
apple
- 20 Jul 2004 15:46
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TWO big trades just gone through, look like BUYs!
8,050,000 at 1.99p
8,050,000 at 2p
It may be time to BUY again.
If this is the bottom!
jonny wilkinson
- 20 Jul 2004 15:57
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Tim Freeborn
I understand you are privy to deals agreed, maybe not signed but certainly not yet announced to the market, surely you have been made an 'insider' as a result of this information if correct while you remain a shareholder, did you sign relevant confidentiality letter before you were made an insider. Do you understand rules when in receipt of price sensitive information. Is your editor fully aware and in agreement to the position you hold within EPO.Perhaps you will confirm why Cunninghams comments that ' we only believe 30% of what we tell ourselves' were not reported earlier , do you agree this was a serious oversight with the benefit of hindsight.
Surely if Shares Magazine are to remain a creditable publication in the market place then in future you should check with the company due to sign the contract ie Post Office Counters UK ( most know about Hong Kong Post Office deal already mentioned in an RNS dated 31 Mar 04 re Hong Kong based high volume payments services contract ) to verify information supplied by EPO is correct including contact name you have spoken with, surely that will provide more comfort to the readers, though i must add the market should be told first if any such deal is likely to affect share price.
I note comments from some other posters about doing your own research, with repect if everyone adopts that line then its most unlikely a publication such as Shares Magazine will cease to operate, readers must feel confident when an article is published that information is accurate.
I wish to make clear i've no reason to believe you've not acted in good faith at all times but remember the priveleged position you hold unlike ordinary retail investors who i should say have every reason to believe what you write.
I'm sure with benefit of hindsight it would have been better not to have purchased shares in EPO, that way you remain totally impartial.
I trust you understand frustration shared by many investors with this stock and will consider my comments carefully before issue any response which i'm sure most here would appreciate.
gunnel
- 20 Jul 2004 16:23
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jonny wilkinson Who cares!
I have seen some of the rubbish that you write on ADVFN so I would say that people should take a look at your track record on that site before taking any notice of you!
This is what you do with your time, every day!
Fred1new
- 20 Jul 2004 16:38
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Boys and girls cool down. Your in the market place now not the play ground. If anybody says something is good it is often of less value than the price that you are being asked to pay. If its advertise the price includes the cost of advertising. You are playing big boys and girl games now and when you make a mistake due to lack of "judgement" you feel the pain. Nobody other than yourself made you buy a share in a company. Accept your responsibility and curb your greed. You can only buy a share in a company because somebody wishes to sell it to you. They are selling it to you because they don't think it is worth any more.
Have a nice day
jonny wilkinson
- 20 Jul 2004 16:39
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gunnel - 20 Jul'04 - 16:23 - 348 of 348
Thanks for your interest in my most recent post, perhaps you failed to notice it was for Tim Freeborn, i can see the problem you have.
Maybe some day you will better understand who pays my wages and that i simply don't rely on the EPO dividend to keep me in the lifestyle i'm accustomed to.
Regards
JW