goldfinger
- 06 Aug 2004 16:15
dealerdear
- 16 Feb 2009 13:50
- 552 of 2076
cheers my dears
jkd
- 16 Feb 2009 19:44
- 553 of 2076
dd
well done, perhaps you should try it more often? dont know if this helps but im finding taking profit on just 50% and holding the balance with stop loss at cost, just in case etc. seems to work quite well for me. anyway what do you mean, dont come along very often? im sure they do, its just that we have trouble banking em, at least i used to, not any more.
all my unbanked paper profits far outweigh my banked losses. lol
could be wrong on this, i often am.
weve had jatropha mania, oil mania and gold to follow? heard it all before? patience is required now, and caution. it will happen. still, theres no harm in joining in as long as we are not blinkered or stubborn about it. good luck.
regards
jkd
dealerdear
- 16 Feb 2009 21:54
- 554 of 2076
Thanks.
Problem is I've no idea where this is going now.
It could rise from here, drop down to 500p again or, if we have another massive downturn, irrespective of the placing it could retest the lows of a couple of mnths ago.
jkd
- 16 Feb 2009 22:23
- 555 of 2076
dd
i agree with you, thats why i only close 50% of my original position. no one knows whats going to happen next. nice to be right and take a profit and then be unsure what happens next knowing that stop loss on remaining 50% is no loss. how would you feel now had you just sold 50% of your original holding now sitting with a stop loss at original cost?
would you feel comfortable? knowing that if it continues to go up you are still in(ok only at half original investment) or if it fails you can relax and know your stop loss is at cost? having already banked a profit on the first 50%?
regards
jkd
jkd
- 16 Feb 2009 23:36
- 556 of 2076
who said this?
look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves?
seems to me look after the losses(small) and the profits (run) will look after themselves. be defensive. worry about and look after the losses not the profits.the profits will look after themselves. how much can i lose? it dont matter how much i can profit. when those signs start revolving in our eyes beware. buy gold. beware.
all just my opinion
regards
jkd
goldfinger
- 17 Feb 2009 08:32
- 557 of 2076
PRECIOUS-Gold strikes 7-mth high as funds buy, ETF at record
Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:13am EST
http://www.reuters.com/article/goldMktRpt/idUST34487720090217
goldfinger
- 17 Feb 2009 12:24
- 558 of 2076
http://seekingalpha.com/article/120862-don-t-kick-yourself-later-for-not-buying-gold-and-silver-now?source=article_lb_articles
Don't Kick Yourself Later for Not Buying Gold and Silver Now 2
by: Peter Cooper February 17, 2009
Gold is powering up towards $1,000 an ounce, and while the odd hesitation along the way is possible it will shortly cross this boundary, hit a new all-time high and then head upwards again.
A trend is your friend, especially if you take advantage of it. For gold the question is how best to leverage the up trend.
Gold and silver stocks are the answer. Conveniently precious metal stocks got really thrashed last autumn - along with gold and silver and every other asset class except bonds. So they are dirt cheap.
Rising prices
But will gold and silver equities not fall again if global stock markets tank, as they surely must with profit forecasts for the non-financials still ludicrously optimistic (face facts, for many major companies there will be losses and not profits in 2009)?
No they will not if precious metal prices are rising - and not falling as they did last autumn. And why will gold and silver prices keep on rising this time?
Well, investors are now very worried about bonds and currency rates, and that leaves gold and silver as the last safe haven in the investment universe. If there is only one investment class left to buy that ought to simplify things for investors.
Rising profits
Gold and silver producers are also big beneficiaries of falling energy prices this year, as up to a quarter of production costs go on energy. In addition, most mines are in non-dollar economies, so manufacturers have costs in depreciated currencies and income in the strong dollar.
That means that even if precious metal prices stagnate - and that looks highly unlikely - gold and silver producers are among the only commodity producers that will see profits jump in 2009.
My blog contains many articles on gold and silver which can point you towards some of the better, and riskier equity investments in this sector, and taking a risk in a rising market usually pays off handsomely.
The people who will be kicking themselves later in the year will be those who do not buy gold and silver stocks now.
This reminds me of my warning to those who did not buy Dubai property when they first had the chance, and even after a 50 per cent fall in house prices they are still 300 per cent up on their original investment!
goldfinger
- 17 Feb 2009 12:25
- 559 of 2076
http://seekingalpha.com/article/120862-don-t-kick-yourself-later-for-not-buying-gold-and-silver-now?source=article_lb_articles
Don't Kick Yourself Later for Not Buying Gold and Silver Now 2
by: Peter Cooper February 17, 2009
Gold is powering up towards $1,000 an ounce, and while the odd hesitation along the way is possible it will shortly cross this boundary, hit a new all-time high and then head upwards again.
A trend is your friend, especially if you take advantage of it. For gold the question is how best to leverage the up trend.
Gold and silver stocks are the answer. Conveniently precious metal stocks got really thrashed last autumn - along with gold and silver and every other asset class except bonds. So they are dirt cheap.
Rising prices
But will gold and silver equities not fall again if global stock markets tank, as they surely must with profit forecasts for the non-financials still ludicrously optimistic (face facts, for many major companies there will be losses and not profits in 2009)?
No they will not if precious metal prices are rising - and not falling as they did last autumn. And why will gold and silver prices keep on rising this time?
Well, investors are now very worried about bonds and currency rates, and that leaves gold and silver as the last safe haven in the investment universe. If there is only one investment class left to buy that ought to simplify things for investors.
Rising profits
Gold and silver producers are also big beneficiaries of falling energy prices this year, as up to a quarter of production costs go on energy. In addition, most mines are in non-dollar economies, so manufacturers have costs in depreciated currencies and income in the strong dollar.
That means that even if precious metal prices stagnate - and that looks highly unlikely - gold and silver producers are among the only commodity producers that will see profits jump in 2009.
My blog contains many articles on gold and silver which can point you towards some of the better, and riskier equity investments in this sector, and taking a risk in a rising market usually pays off handsomely.
The people who will be kicking themselves later in the year will be those who do not buy gold and silver stocks now.
This reminds me of my warning to those who did not buy Dubai property when they first had the chance, and even after a 50 per cent fall in house prices they are still 300 per cent up on their original investment!
cynic
- 17 Feb 2009 12:51
- 560 of 2076
This reminds me of my warning to those who did not buy Dubai property when they first had the chance, and even after a 50 per cent fall in house prices they are still 300 per cent up on their original investment! .... and on the basis of that, avoid this guys recommendations! ...... Dubai is a mug's paradise where properties are like pass the parcel ..... there is no second-hand market and furthermore, when one development is finished, the guys over there just start another .... thus unless you have already managed to "pass your parcel" you profit is very likely to prove illusory
goldfinger
- 18 Feb 2009 01:04
- 561 of 2076
Plenty of profit already made in POG.
Still more to come I reckon.
chessplayer
- 18 Feb 2009 07:47
- 562 of 2076
Very interesting comments above re gold and silver prices.
Re silver,I have been checking out the ratio to gold prices in recent years. It has been as high as 89,but the average looks to be about 55 over the past few years.
Silver prices have risen from about $10. in November to $14 at present. The ratio of 55 ,would imply a price of $18.
And of course if gold rises there is little reason to doubt that so too will silver.
goldfinger
- 18 Feb 2009 08:28
- 563 of 2076
Bullish Long Term Outlook for Gold
by: Peter Degraaf February 17, 2009 |
http://seekingalpha.com/article/120907-bullish-long-term-outlook-for-gold
goldfinger
- 18 Feb 2009 10:37
- 564 of 2076
What Gold Price Is Telling Us About World Markets
by: Investment Capitalist February 18, 2009 |
http://seekingalpha.com/article/121110-what-gold-price-is-telling-us-about-world-markets
goldfinger
- 18 Feb 2009 12:37
- 565 of 2076
dealerdear
- 18 Feb 2009 12:45
- 566 of 2076
Strange how gold keeps rising yet POG is as good as stationary.
Rather reflects the dreadful market conditions at the moment
cynic
- 18 Feb 2009 12:58
- 567 of 2076
these things never move exactly hand in hand ..... as someone posted earlier, it would be good to know a timetable for this offer for ORE
robertalexander
- 18 Feb 2009 13:06
- 568 of 2076
that would be me Cynic, believe from POG RNS that the offer is good for 6 months from 05 Feb 09[ I stopped being lazy and re-read the RNSs]
The Scheme is subject to certain conditions and certain further terms referred to in Appendix I of this announcement and to be set out in the Scheme Document. These conditions include:
the approvals of the Aricom Shareholders referred to above;
the sanction and confirmation of the Court referred to above;
the Scheme becoming effective by no later than 6 months after the date of this announcement or such later date as Peter Hambro Mining and Aricom may agree with (where applicable) the consent of the Panel and the approval of the Court, failing which the Scheme will lapse;
approval by the Peter Hambro Mining Shareholders of all resolutions necessary to approve, implement and effect the Merger;
certain Russian regulatory approvals; and
admission of the New Peter Hambro Mining Shares to trading on AIM or to listing on the Official List and to trading on the Main Market.
extract from: 06/02/09 07:00 Peter Hambro Mining (POG) Recommended Merger of PHM and RNS
Alex
chessplayer
- 18 Feb 2009 16:28
- 569 of 2076
I see there was a trade today involving Standard Chartered and 5 million plus shares.Was this a buy or a sell,and how can you tell which one it was?
jkd
- 18 Feb 2009 18:01
- 570 of 2076
cp
look at the price movement followed by next 2/3 days price movement. that often helps show the truth of the matter. i think we have discussed this before have we not? please ignore buy/ sales they are simply not reliable. anyway i could be wrong here but to answer your question, please excuse my ignorance, if someone sold then someone else bought, does it matter? i am of course unschooled in such things, except i believe the answer to your question is shown in the movement of price as suggested above. where do you guys all come from and get this buys or sells idea from? it might be wrong but does price show it to be so? or not? thats all that matters.
there were large buys but price went down that cant be right. how many times have i heard this? price tells the Truth.
hope this might finally help you wake up.
regards
jkd
Balerboy
- 18 Feb 2009 18:37
- 571 of 2076
CP, thats told you!!