goldfinger
- 06 Aug 2004 16:15
cynic
- 22 Apr 2009 12:44
- 739 of 2076
i'm out of these at the moment (and ORE of course), but have topped up HOIL and also bought a few WOS this morning, on the basis that anything that helps the housing market must help WOS
PCM
- 22 Apr 2009 12:47
- 740 of 2076
some free technical tools and vid's on Gold here http://www.tradinghelpdesk.com
goldfinger
- 23 Apr 2009 10:38
- 741 of 2076
Looking very good this morning for POG, come on cyners get your wallet out.
goldfinger
- 23 Apr 2009 15:06
- 742 of 2076
Upgrade to BUY, we are bullish on gold
We upgrade Peter Hambro Mining (POG) to BUY, setting a new price objective of
GBp850, 1.5x our estimated post-Aricom merger NPV/share. This P/NPV
multiple is still a discount to gold-producing peers, which trade on 2-3x NPV.
Gold has pulled back from recent highs, presenting an interesting entry point into gold equities, in our opinion.
Our commodity strategist, Francisco Blanch,
believes that gold could touch US$1500/oz on a three-year view.
Aricom merger expected to complete late April
Shareholders of both Peter Hambro and Aricom (ORE, not covered) have voted to
approve the proposed merger, whereby ORE shareholders receive 1 POG share
for every 16 ORE shares held. We understand that the proposed transaction is
now subject only to court approval, which is expected around April 22nd. While we think the transaction is NPV dilutive, it does resolve POGs financing issues
related to potential redemption of its gold convertible bond and its capex plans.
POG to trade on main board = 9.5 days trading volumes
POG targets a move to the main board (from AIM) around the same time as the
completion of the shareholder-approved merger with Aricom. Our index group
suggests that index trackers could need to buy 8mn shares (based on a free-float
factor of 100%, which it uses in the AIM All Share Index), or 9.5 days volume. We believe that this could be quite supportive for the shares.
Changes to earnings: 2009E EPS -12%, 2010E EPS +2%
We incorporate new production targets per POGs recent presentation to analysts.
To be conservative, we have assumed the bottom end of the companys
production guidance. 2009E EPS -12% to US$1.81/sh. 2010E EPS +2% to
US$3.06/sh. To be clear, we will not factor Aricom into our model until the deal
completes. We see the deal as approximately 24% NPV dilutive.
goldfinger
- 24 Apr 2009 08:33
- 743 of 2076
Could just be the ride we have been waiting for.
China reveals it has 1,054 tonnes of gold -XinhuaReuters, Friday April 24 2009 (Adds total value of holding)
By Alfred Cang and Lucy Hornby
SHANGHAI/BEIJING, April 24 (Reuters) - China revealed on Friday that it had quietly raised its gold reserves by three-quarters since 2003, increasing its holdings to 1,054 tonnes and confirming years of speculation it had been buying.
Hu Xiaolian, head of the State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE), told Xinhua news agency in an interview that the country's reserves had risen by 454 tonnes from 600 tonnes since 2003, when China last adjusted its state gold reserves figure.
The world gold market has been buzzing with talk about China buying gold for years as the country's foreign exchange reserves have rocketed, and speculation has picked up since the global economic crisis threatened to weaken the value of those reserves.
Gold prices jumped on the news and were up 1 percent on the day at $910.80 an ounce at 0540 GMT. By a Reuters calculation, China's holding of gold would be worth $30.9 billion at current prices.
China recently reported the change in its gold holdings to the International Monetary Fund and would include the latest change in central bank reports and balance of payment statistics, Hu said.
China's reserves were now the fifth biggest in the world, with only six countries holding more than 1,000 tonnes, she said.
China had increased its stocks by buying on the domestic market and from domestic producers.
Gold market participants said Hu's revelation was good news for the market and signalled likely further buying.
"The comments indicate that China will buy more gold as reserve to improve its foreign reserve portfolio. This is a trend," said Yao Haiqiao, president of Longgold Asset Management.
Hou Huimin, vice general secretary of the China Gold Association, said China should build its reserves to 5,000 tonnes.
"It's not a matter of a few hundred, or 1,000 tonnes. China should hold more because of its new international status, and because of the financial crisis," he said.
"The financial crisis means the U.S. dollar value is changing fast, and it may retreat from being the international reserve currency. If that happens, whoever holds gold will be at an advantage."
The European Central Bank recommends its member banks hold 15 percent of their reserves in gold, but among Asian nations the percentage is far smaller, said Albert Cheng, World Gold Council managing director for the far east.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8471411
goldfinger
- 24 Apr 2009 09:09
- 744 of 2076
Cazenove re-initiated today :-
We view the new Peter Hambro very positively, for a number of reasons and therefore resume
coverage with an OUTPERFORM recommendation. Key points:
Valuation multiples remain significantly below the peer group (over 60% on FY09E EV/EBITDA
and PER) despite the deal being dilutive on earnings and NPV metrics. The EPS downgrades
stem primarily from the fact that Peter Hambro has issued new shares equivalent to 90% of its
existing share capital to buy assets that are in the early stages of ramp up or even earlier and
therefore generating no earnings. The reduction to our NPV is less severe while the deal is
highly accretive on resource multiples, indicating the upside potential within the combined
group.
Importantly though, the deal has solved the companys balance sheet issues, which had proved
a millstone around its neck for some time and led to significant underperformance against the
peers and gold. There is also now cashflow (c.$200m pa on spot) and a stronger operational track record backing the legacy Aricom iron ore projects, significantly increasing the likelihood
of obtaining finance in our view.
As it stands, the combination of the companies assets sets the enlarged group up to generate
fairly stable cashflow from its low cost, expanding gold operations with additional leverage to
the industrial production cycle through the iron ore projects.
Strong growth potential. The concept of a diversified miner in a relatively untapped but highly
prospective region such as fareastern Russia, particularly given its proximity to China, offers
the potential for significant upside in our view. With an established production base and,
potentially, a Chinese partner, the story begins to look even more interesting and warrants a
premium to NPV in our view.
chessplayer
- 24 Apr 2009 09:40
- 745 of 2076
The gold price has rebounded strongly,too, now up to $910.
goldfinger
- 24 Apr 2009 11:59
- 746 of 2076
Yep things are looking pretty bullish CP.
Im hoping for a sustained rise over a number of weeks.
Big Al
- 24 Apr 2009 12:32
- 747 of 2076
I use the PHAU ETF to play gold.
goldfinger
- 24 Apr 2009 14:11
- 748 of 2076
Lifted from advfn..
seem to have been some updates to price targets from analysts
Troika Dialog have Buy with PT 891.77p
Unicredit have Buy with PT 898.32p
If it gets to those levels i think it is on the verge of FTSE100 entry as it would be about 90th largest company by market cap.
marni
- 24 Apr 2009 22:44
- 749 of 2076
some idiot recently on this thread predicted this to plummet to under 400p......what an idiot when it was about to join ftse plus gold price forecast to go up.....and plus merger solving any issues
chessplayer
- 25 Apr 2009 07:16
- 750 of 2076
So what?
cynic
- 25 Apr 2009 09:30
- 751 of 2076
personally, i think oil is more likely to end 2009 >$70 than gold is to finish >$1000 ..... you will note that i have ignored the super-hype of recent days that gold will shortly(?) rocket to $1500, which io think has about the same credibility as when oil was deemed a racing certainty to be >$200.
that said, POG is about the cheapest gold producer in the world and has now brought ORE back into the fold, i guess at a lower price than they sold it off in the first place! ...... cash benefit apart, ORE diversifies POG's commodity assets, and that can be no bad thing.
on the negative, side, POG operates out of russia, which is notorious for its political shenanigans, though of course the hambro family has more than a century's experience in dealing with the politicos there.
the chart below is also showing good strength, so given a fair wind, there could well be some decent profits to be made in the near future ...... but don't forget that not only has NY now risen for 7 straight weeks, but POG itself can be frighteningly volatile.
my gut feeling on this saturday morning would be to wait for a bad day (next week?) before jumping in
goldfinger
- 28 Apr 2009 15:48
- 752 of 2076
POG (601p) From Minesite:-
April 27, 2009
The Newly Completed Merger Between Peter Hambro Mining And Aricom Makes Sense In Both Russia and China.
By Charles Wyatt
The Russians should really give Peter Hambro the Order of Lenin, or whatever the highest Russian honour is these days. He's spoken up for the country through thick and thin. It goes without saying that Russia is not the easiest country in which to operate as both Highland Gold and Celtic Resources found to their cost.
Highland Gold suddenly discovered, a few years ago, that most of its underground equipment was being claimed by a Russian entity, while Celtic Resources was acquired by Severstal after a long drawn out campaign that certainly did not conform to the Queensberry rules. Throughout all that time PETER HAMBRO MINING has soldiered on, but from early on the company has had the advantage of a Russian partner with enough muscle to keep the oligarchs and bureaucrats at bay.
Back in 2004 Peter Hambro Mining spun-off Aricom - again with the same Russian partner involved - onto the AIM market. At that time the companys only asset was the Olekma titanium project. Since then Aricom, under the guidance of Jay Hambro, has grown apace so that its assets now include the Kuranakh titanomagnetite project where mining has started. It also has two advanced iron ore projects K & S where a pre-feasibility study has been carried out which demonstrates both the ability of the project to operate and its economic potential, and Garinskoye where a scoping study estimates approximately US$2 billion of net present value. Now Aricom and Peter Hambro are coming back together again.
The deal is an all-paper transaction and the enlarged Peter Hambro Mining will advance from the AIM market to the Official List of the London Stock Exchange. This move will have two immediate advantages. First, its size will gain respect from the Russians and it is unlikely to encounter much interference with its operations and second, the FTSE index committee is expected to enter the company on the FTSE 250 index at its meeting scheduled for June. The market capitalisation combined with good liquidity and sufficient free float for a full weighting should bring in some new institutional investors. Ironically, therefore, this merger with a non-gold company should help to increase the visibility of the new company in the gold sector as it is already in the prestigious FTSE Gold Mines Index. And that is the sector, thanks to the chaos in the worlds finances and Chinas very sensible plan to buy ever more gold assets, which looks like flourishing for some time to come.
Simultaneously with the completion of this deal Peter Hambro Mining announced its preliminary results for 2008 which showed production increasing by 36 per cent to 393,600 ozs gold, at the upper end of the target given earlier in the year of 350-400,000 ozs. It may seem a little snide at this stage to remind readers that back in January 2004 Peter Hambro and his Russian colleagues ran a workshop for analysts at which a target was set to reach production of 1 million ounces by 2009. It seemed ambitious at the time given that production at the time was 250,000 ozs, but a week earlier a number of analysts from institutions including JP Morgan, Citibank and Merrill Lynch visited the Pokrovskiy operations. They were very happy with what they saw, said Peter Hambro, and appeared satisfied that the target would be reached. Perhaps this gave an insight into analysts being told what they wanted to hear and a promoter wanting to raise the bar for any mid-tier producer contemplating a bid.
In some ways the 2008 results were a bit of a disappointment to investors as the final dividend was cut. The reason for this was the need to conserve cash, which is fair enough and the pill was sweetened with assurances that Peter Hambro and Pavel Maslovskiy would take a 50 per cent cut in their bonuses. It also reflected the fact that although EBITDA rose by 53 per cent to US$136 million, earnings took a hit from non-cash items and other costs totaling US$98 million and fell from US47.6 cents to US27.1 cents. These non-cash items consisted of foreign exchange losses, higher depreciation and a fair value adjustment of derivatives, while other costs rose due to higher wages and increased interest payments. Not too much should be read into all this as it is usual to give the stable a fair old clean out at the time of a deal such as this.
Looking ahead there is plenty of room for encouragement. In 2008 the average gold sales price was US$845/oz, whereas this year the price has been well into the US$900s, and even the more pessimistic analysts in the annual competition run by the London Bullion Market Association reckon it should average US$881/oz for the year. In addition to this production is bound to rise as operations at the Pioneer mine enter their second stage this year, adding to that from Pokrovskiy. Meanwhile at Malomir the recent discovery of non-refractory ore means that the anticipated spend on a recovery system is postponed while early production from the Quartzitovoye ore body continues. As to costs, benefits from a weaker rouble, lower energy prices and a slowdown in inflation were being felt toward the end of 2008 and should continue this year.
From a car on the way to the airport to return from Moscow, Peter Hambro points out that there is another bit of logic behind the deal which the market does not seem to appreciate. Aricom was not on the Chinese radar screens, but the enlarged Peter Hambro Mining certainly is. This was borne out during a recent visit to Beijing when it was made clear that off-take agreements and help with development funding were now on the table. Aricoms iron ore deposits are close to the Chinese border - much, much closer than the ports on the north coast of Australia.
goldfinger
- 29 Apr 2009 09:44
- 753 of 2076
POG (601p) From Minesite:-
April 27, 2009
The Newly Completed Merger Between Peter Hambro Mining And Aricom Makes Sense In Both Russia and China.
By Charles Wyatt
The Russians should really give Peter Hambro the Order of Lenin, or whatever the highest Russian honour is these days. He's spoken up for the country through thick and thin. It goes without saying that Russia is not the easiest country in which to operate as both Highland Gold and Celtic Resources found to their cost.
Highland Gold suddenly discovered, a few years ago, that most of its underground equipment was being claimed by a Russian entity, while Celtic Resources was acquired by Severstal after a long drawn out campaign that certainly did not conform to the Queensberry rules. Throughout all that time PETER HAMBRO MINING has soldiered on, but from early on the company has had the advantage of a Russian partner with enough muscle to keep the oligarchs and bureaucrats at bay.
Back in 2004 Peter Hambro Mining spun-off Aricom - again with the same Russian partner involved - onto the AIM market. At that time the companys only asset was the Olekma titanium project. Since then Aricom, under the guidance of Jay Hambro, has grown apace so that its assets now include the Kuranakh titanomagnetite project where mining has started. It also has two advanced iron ore projects K & S where a pre-feasibility study has been carried out which demonstrates both the ability of the project to operate and its economic potential, and Garinskoye where a scoping study estimates approximately US$2 billion of net present value. Now Aricom and Peter Hambro are coming back together again.
The deal is an all-paper transaction and the enlarged Peter Hambro Mining will advance from the AIM market to the Official List of the London Stock Exchange. This move will have two immediate advantages. First, its size will gain respect from the Russians and it is unlikely to encounter much interference with its operations and second, the FTSE index committee is expected to enter the company on the FTSE 250 index at its meeting scheduled for June. The market capitalisation combined with good liquidity and sufficient free float for a full weighting should bring in some new institutional investors. Ironically, therefore, this merger with a non-gold company should help to increase the visibility of the new company in the gold sector as it is already in the prestigious FTSE Gold Mines Index. And that is the sector, thanks to the chaos in the worlds finances and Chinas very sensible plan to buy ever more gold assets, which looks like flourishing for some time to come.
Simultaneously with the completion of this deal Peter Hambro Mining announced its preliminary results for 2008 which showed production increasing by 36 per cent to 393,600 ozs gold, at the upper end of the target given earlier in the year of 350-400,000 ozs. It may seem a little snide at this stage to remind readers that back in January 2004 Peter Hambro and his Russian colleagues ran a workshop for analysts at which a target was set to reach production of 1 million ounces by 2009. It seemed ambitious at the time given that production at the time was 250,000 ozs, but a week earlier a number of analysts from institutions including JP Morgan, Citibank and Merrill Lynch visited the Pokrovskiy operations. They were very happy with what they saw, said Peter Hambro, and appeared satisfied that the target would be reached. Perhaps this gave an insight into analysts being told what they wanted to hear and a promoter wanting to raise the bar for any mid-tier producer contemplating a bid.
In some ways the 2008 results were a bit of a disappointment to investors as the final dividend was cut. The reason for this was the need to conserve cash, which is fair enough and the pill was sweetened with assurances that Peter Hambro and Pavel Maslovskiy would take a 50 per cent cut in their bonuses. It also reflected the fact that although EBITDA rose by 53 per cent to US$136 million, earnings took a hit from non-cash items and other costs totaling US$98 million and fell from US47.6 cents to US27.1 cents. These non-cash items consisted of foreign exchange losses, higher depreciation and a fair value adjustment of derivatives, while other costs rose due to higher wages and increased interest payments. Not too much should be read into all this as it is usual to give the stable a fair old clean out at the time of a deal such as this.
Looking ahead there is plenty of room for encouragement. In 2008 the average gold sales price was US$845/oz, whereas this year the price has been well into the US$900s, and even the more pessimistic analysts in the annual competition run by the London Bullion Market Association reckon it should average US$881/oz for the year. In addition to this production is bound to rise as operations at the Pioneer mine enter their second stage this year, adding to that from Pokrovskiy. Meanwhile at Malomir the recent discovery of non-refractory ore means that the anticipated spend on a recovery system is postponed while early production from the Quartzitovoye ore body continues. As to costs, benefits from a weaker rouble, lower energy prices and a slowdown in inflation were being felt toward the end of 2008 and should continue this year.
From a car on the way to the airport to return from Moscow, Peter Hambro points out that there is another bit of logic behind the deal which the market does not seem to appreciate. Aricom was not on the Chinese radar screens, but the enlarged Peter Hambro Mining certainly is. This was borne out during a recent visit to Beijing when it was made clear that off-take agreements and help with development funding were now on the table. Aricoms iron ore deposits are close to the Chinese border - much, much closer than the ports on the north coast of Australia.
marni
- 29 Apr 2009 18:14
- 754 of 2076
another great day on this share......god bless russia
at least that idiot who was trying to scare people into elling their shares has left this thread......cant stand these people trying to scare people into buying or selling shares by vague comments or predictions.
anyway, pog is on up up up.....question is when to sell
cynic
- 29 Apr 2009 18:41
- 755 of 2076
it's a very good company indeed, though the ride can be quite scary at times
chessplayer
- 30 Apr 2009 06:26
- 756 of 2076
Has anybody seen the estimates re gold production for the current year and beyond?
marni
- 30 Apr 2009 19:20
- 757 of 2076
yes, peter hambro hav given predictions for next few years in recent communications about a month or so ago......they look very impressive.
could see this back to 15 quid
cynic
- 30 Apr 2009 20:21
- 758 of 2076
more likely to be heading back towards 200 dma as london heads sharply south tomorrow - or at least that is my guess as to what will happen judging by NY and other issues - see my post on FTSE thread