Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I have not responded to Fred and his comments recently, but I feel that it is time to remind him of honesty.
He has been, at any moment, wanting to bring in the fact that the Camereon bill for the wisteria cutting(as part of having his house painted) and Osbourne and his taxi bill.
I wish to remind him that the biggest display of lack of honesty was from G Brown Esq. our Prime Minister, who after making a promise to go to the electorate, refused to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, giving the reason is that it was not a constitutional change.There are a great many people who will not forgive him for that.That piece of dishonesty is greater than anything else given by a poltician in my
memory.l
I do know that Camereon has now said he will not put the question of the treaty to the country if he is elected although he made same promise, but I agree with this as the treaty has now been ratified and what good would it do to spend all those millions for a pointless exercise.

Stable, Check the thread back for information about the necessity for G Brown to have a National Election to validate his position.

Nor the necessity to have a referendum on the Lisbon treaty.
It may have been the wish of a minority of disillusioned tories for him to do either or both.

Cameron in spite of his rhetoric must have been personally relieved about the latter decision,

The split over Europe is still deep in the bowels of the tory party and will probably be revived as a problem issue for them. Especially if the little
Englanders are elected in any number.

Isn't strange how quick Cameron stated that he would not challenge the signing of the Lisbon Treaty.

If the signing was unconstitutional as you state, Cameron's statement does not say much for his honesty.

nmamreh,

Your post of 0930 yesterday, I agree with everything you say. As to the comment, 'If it were easy, don't you think they would have sorted it out by now?

Not saying it is easy, but surely it also can't be that difficult, and as most of us except the more standards are allowed to slide the more difficult it is to get them back. All it takes is a politician with guts and not just hype. The problem with the present lot, and the oppositions, it is a struggle to find anyone of sufficient calibre.

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Having to report to your "children" what you do as a "day's work", or for a living and its value to society can be very salutary.

Everybody has good in them, but sometimes they it very hard to find where they have hidden it!

"Perhaps modern society has created a situation whereby humans are TOO sophisticated (in the complex sense of that word), for their own good and that reverting to fundamentals might be called for."

A most wholeheartedly agree.

Taken from a consultation dreaft for my area....

Northamptonshire Fire and Rescue

The County Council has a statutory duty to ensure efficient and effective fire and rescue provision and that the service contributes effectively to the wider community safety agenda. New developments place additional demand for fire and rescue resources and therefore the County Council have developed a clear and transparent basis for seeking to mitigate this impact.

Contributions are based on an activity factor i.e. the percentage of time spent on a particular activity. 49% of fires attended by the service are residential with the remainder occurring in non-residential developments. The County Council will produce a capital programme to show where the money will be expended.

The main capital cost is to provide sufficient fire station capacity. There are currently 22 fire stations in Northamptonshire, each covering on average 12,476 dwellings. In order to maintain the current level of service, for each additional 12,476 dwellings, an additional fire station, fully equipped, is required.

The contribution towards new station facilities from residential development will be calculated as follows:

(FS+FA x AF)/DP

Where;

FS is the cost to build a new fire station
FA is the cost of new fire appliances and equipment
AF is the activity factor
DP is the average number of domestic properties.

Currently the 22 fire stations cover 18,887 non-domestic premises. This means that each station on average covers 858 premises. The average property floorspace is 968 sq m. The per sq m contribution is therefore calculated as follows:

(FS+FA X AF) /NDP/PF

Where;

FS is the cost to build a new fire station
FA is the cost of new fire appliances and equipment
AF is the activity factor
NDP is the average number of non-domestic properties
PF is the average property floorspace.

The above stuff has been sent to me for my comment.

Hmmm? Well, before I go any further, that does look like two very sensible formulae.

Q. "Are the assumptions right or wrong?"
A. "I haven't got a clue."

So I can't comment, can I?

Conclusion: It's definitely a case of the blind are leading the blind.

Fred household:

What do you do, Dad?

I wind people up on bulletin boards.

Why, Dad?

Dunno, I just have fun doing it.

But how can you justify that, Dad?

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He won mastermind many years ago?

Easy, daughters. I am just trying to expand their capacity to think logically and less egocentrically.

"But Dad, there are many who won't be able to do that"!

Dad, "But there are some who will be able to think, and not just react as if they are programmed.

They will enjoy questioning their own positions, and some will have the flexibility to modify their stances, or argue and validate the positions which they hold.

Sometimes, when they concentrate on the subject under discussion the responses are interesting and very sensible and informative.

But, sometimes the response are a bit infantile and meaningless utterances and grunts."

Daughter, "you mean like the Junior School's playground, where they call each other names and want to fight and bully others, who they see as different."

Daughter, "I like discussing different things and sometimes it can be fun!"

"Me too daughter, I am glad we agree on something."

Next question?

Tabs.

That is interesting.


"Kayak has a mind"?

Where did he find i?.

He has just been fooling me all this time.


8-)

Not sure whether they have a section for 'Passionate Labour Party Activists', but who knows? Perhaps Fred,as a 'great briton', could still apply and take his passion to the next level?

http://www.greatbritons.ba.com/how-to-apply

How about a SPELLING FOR FIVE YEAR OLDS course, with pictures!

Can I enrol?

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Can't or shouldn't a language evolve?

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NM,

I am half way with you.

And words such as "absolutely" and the others I can't recall, should all be struck out of the dictionary.

I have a daughter who has lost he way, and after having degrees in Psychology, Linguistics and , multiple qualifications in language has gone back to university to study "linguistic pathology".

I think, I am partially responsible for her pathology, by encouraging her not to take statements as facts, and to ask the question "Why?".

Unfortunately, for me, her sisters have are similarly inclined and at times their mother can be equally challenging.

Thankfully, they also have a sense of humour.

PS.

Actually, is one of the other words.


Actually, "three" is a word I have difficulty in pronouncing.

God, they would have to have a sense of humour to live with Fred.

To the uninitiated: my opinions and utterances are so repulsive to our dear Fred that he has 'squelched' me so has rendered himself unable to enjoy what passes for my wit and wisdom. I am, therefore, at liberty to say what I like about him here without any danger of offending him - if that were to be a concern of mine.

I am enjoying this situation far more than I thought possible.

This used to be such a fun thread ,,,where have all the old crowd gone ?????