Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

'the true test of a civilised society is the way it treats its animals'. Absolutely spot on, how civilised are we that we treat our animals so well, it's about time we came down much harder on them, of course the animals I refer to are the likes of Sutcliffe, Tobin and Andrews et al, the victims and their families of crimes committed by the likes of these vermin deserve so much better.
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mnamreh -- Do we know what sort of background from which these individuals arose, I have no idea about their upbringing, have you? It is easy to 'blanket' blame their upbringing as the reasons for their behaviour.

As regards to charitable donations, I find it extremely hard to give more than I do, this is almost certainly due to my scepticism. So much money is required to pay the directors and others at the top of the tree before it gets to those unfortunate enough to have to rely on such donations.

About 15 years ago the Guide Dogs for the Blind charity were paying a director 69k per annum, which I don't think was very charitable of him.

Roughly 7 years ago my sister-in-law collected for the RNLI - knocking on doors etc. Prior to embarking on their charitable mission the family of 5 adults put all the loose change they had into the tin, my brother topped up with a 10 note. My s-i-l then collected around the community. She subsequently received a thank you for collecting ---- 2.38.

Also 90% of the people who have just 10% of the wealth are targeted to exhaustion.
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It is always difficult when we look deep into, 'why people are as they are'.
I agree many are bought up by bad parents, in bad areas, and obviously that does often result in a bad person. Of course people bought up correctly in good ares, also go bad.
But we can't go too far down this road. Many years ago I read a report that tried to show how everyone that is bad or does bad things may not be to blame. The murderer that has the DNA to kill, the rapist that has the DNA to rape, and so on. The author was attempting to say that it is no ones fault that they are as they are.
Even if that was so, which I do not believe, bloody hard luck. Most people know that what they are doing is right or wrong.
The excuse I have often come across in child abuse is, It's not my fault, I was abused as a child'. The easiest excuse there is. And yet I know far more people who were abused as children, mentally, physically and sexually, who due to their experiences make damn sure it will not happen to their children.
There are far too many people who look for excuses for why people do things, instead of saying, 'These people are bad, simple as that. Leave the causes out of it when it comes to protecting the public. Those who can not help it, due to mental illness should of course be helped, but if they are a danger to the public, keep them locked up. If they are just pure evil, and there are some, throw the key away.
Until we start treating the victims above the level we treat the perpetrator of these crimes, we will never come near to winning the war against said crime, and will continue to be Soft Touch Britain.

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There is something you can do about the problem you are having.

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Expensive, you say?

Here's some Jean Yu panties, priced at 295. Now, I think they are a rip off! :-)

I understand the massive A380, which is possibly the third biggest plane in the world, is due to land at Manchester Airport at 12:25 today.

Determining 'which is the biggest aeroplane' is always a bit difficult because you can use either weight or wingspan and get differing results. Here are just four of today's giants:-

Relative size comparison of the Spruce Goose, An-225, A380, and a 747



I was always amazed by the 747-400's statistics:

Empty: 399, 000 lb
Max Takeoff (MTO): 800, 000 lb
Payload: 249,122 lb cargo

In other words, at take off it carries about 70 tons of fuel , together with another 110 tons' worth of punters and their belongings. The bit I like about it best of all, is that it flies like a dream.

A London Fire

*In a run-down part of East London a fire



destroyed a dilapidated four-storey house

that had been divided into four flats.*

A Nigerian family of six Internet con artists
and full time benefit cheats lived on the first floor...
all six tragically perished in the fire.


A group of seven Islamic welfare cheats,
all illegally in the country, lived on the second floor...
they too, all perished in the fire.


Six Albanian, gang banger, ex-cons - all claiming
political asylum and living off the state for free,
occupied the 3rd floor...they too, died.


But the middle aged British white couple who lived
on the top floor miraculously survived the fire.

The Equal Opportunities Commission,
Amnesty International, Rights activists,
black community leaders and the
British Islamic Council were all furious
at the apparent racial inequality of the situation.


Why was just the British white couple saved?
It was monstrous they claimed, and showed
that systemic 'racism' still existed in all areas
of public service - questions were raised in the
House of Commons, the popular media picked up
the story and within hours it was national and
indeed international news.


Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, when questioned
stated calmly that it would be unwise to jump to
conclusions until the Police and Fire Service had
completed their report.
He closed by stating that he expected their initial
assessment to be available within the next 36 hours �
so perhaps it would be best to let the experts gather
the evidence and report back before
he commented any further.

The baying Press pack subsequently reported the
interview in such way as to intimate that the Mayor
was indifferent to suffering and was out of touch
with the feelings of the whole East London community!


A large motorcade of representatives from all five groups,
together with the Home Secretary drove to the area,
having demanded a meeting with the local chief fire officer.
They made sure that a large pack of popular Press and TV
had been briefed on the visit and so the motorcade was met
by a huge gaggle of journalists, TV interviewers and cameras.


On camera, they loudly demanded to know why the Africans,
Black Muslims and Albanians all died in the fire and
only the white couple lived.


One bemused chief fire officer quietly replied .


"Because they were both at work."

Check for Alzheimer's - Pretty Amazing!

The following was developed as a mental age assessment by the School of Psychiatry at Harvard University

Take your time and see if you can read each line aloud without a mistake.

The average person over 45 years of age cannot do it!


1. This is this cat.
2. This is is cat.
3. This is how cat.
4. This is to cat.
5. This is keep cat.
6. This is an cat.
7. This is old cat.
8. This is fart cat.
9. This is busy cat.
10. This is for cat.
11. This is forty cat.
12. This is seconds cat.


Now go back and read the third word in each line from the top down and I betcha you cannot resist passing it on..........

This is me,

Going through the usual boredam of waiting for a flight. Your last 2 posts gave me a welcome laugh.
Must though point out an inacuracy in your Cat post.
The 40 second statement is way off, it took this old fart easily twice that.

Greek.

Sorry , but i resisted passing it on ............. or did i ?

Parvinder and Habib are beggars




Habib panhandles just as long as Parvinder ... but only collects 2 to 3 pounds every day.




Parvinder brings home a suitcase FULL of 20 notes, drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house and has a lot of money to spend.







Habib says to Parvinder "I work just as long and hard as you do .... but how do you bring home a suitcase full of 20 notes every day?"




Parvinder says, "Look at your sign, what does it say?"




Habib's sign reads, "I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support."




Parvinder says "No wonder you only get 2-3"




Habib says to Parvinder "So what does your sign say?"




Parvinder shows Habib his sign:




It reads, "I only need another 20 to move back to Pakistan."

An utterly brilliant performance from Katherine Jenkins & Spellbound performing "Bring Me To Life" at the recent 'Help For Heroes' concert:



Lyrics:

How can you see into my eyes like open doors
leading you down into my core
where Ive become so numb
without a soul
my spirit sleeping somewhere cold
until you find it there and lead it back home

Wake me up inside
Wake me up inside
call my name and save me from the dark
bid my blood to run
before I come undone
save me from the nothing Ive become

now that I know what Im without
you cant just leave me
breathe into me and make me real
bring me to life

Wake me up inside
Wake me up inside
call my name and save me from the dark
bid my blood to run
before I come undone
save me from the nothing Ive become

Bring me to life

frozen inside without your touch
without your love darling
only you are the life among the dead

bid my blood to run
before I come undone
save me from the nothing Ive become

Bring me to life

Even better watching it live :-)

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Agreed mnamreh, this version lacks the heavy rock guitar - but it is a great spectacle.

And what about Robbie Williams thumps up or down [ or if you bat for the other side bums ] bat 4 the other side, that sounds so English