Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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MN,

I am not sure that you should have fun at my expense.


Rattle you own cages, it is very easy to do.

8-)

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Is Fred and mnamreh being abusive again ? Stan I hope you are making a note of this.

Muslim student leaders say changes to tuition fees in England could breach Islamic rules on finance, which do not permit interest charges.

The coalition government's plans to raise tuition fees to up to 9,000 also include higher interest rates for repayments of loans.

The Federation of Student Islamic Societies says this will make loans unusable for many Muslim students.

A government spokesman said these were "not commercial loans".

No, the loans are similar to those from a "money lender or launderer."

Another attempt at demolition of a civilised society.

Could be the Coalitions Poll tax, when the "middle class" realise what it is going to cost them, for their children and grandchildren's educations.

One foot forward and two feet back.

"I want this to be the New Labour Government that ended Tory boom and bust forever." Gordon Brown: November 1997 ...

Didn't we all.

What are Cameron's goals? To limit higher education to a selected few, or for those not of his "ilk" to leave "universities" with long term debts.

Raise the unemployment level to 4 million. in order to form the "Big Society" of the unemployed.

I don't even think he is well intentioned.



Brilliant thinking.

Gordon Brown rode roughshod over resistance from the Bank of England to order the disastrous sell-off of Britain's gold reserves, secret papers have revealed.
Treasury documents released under Freedom of Information last night suggest that the Bank was reluctant to sign up to the sale of 395 tonnes of gold at rock-bottom prices in a series of auctions between 1999 and 2002.
The deals, struck when Mr Brown was Chancellor, are thought to have cost Britain 6billion, almost double the 3.3billion cost of Black Wednesday in 1992 when the country crashed out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism.
Senior officials are said to have warned that the timing of the sale risked losing money for the taxpayer.
Treasury ministers and Tony Blair previously told Parliament that the sale was made 'on the technical advice of the Bank of England'.
One crucial passage in the papers about relations between the Treasury and the Bank has been blacked out.
Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable said: 'It has long been clear that Gordon Brown's gold sell-off was spectacularly bad timing, but these papers show the extent of the opposition from those who saw how much money his actions could lose the country.
'It is clear that the taxpayer is now footing the bill for the Prime Minister's refusal to listen to reason.'

Tony Blair pockets 50K for speech to toilet roll manufacturers

From: NewsCore November 07, 2010 9:39PM



FORMER British prime minister Tony Blair will pocket 50,000 ($81,000) for addressing a US conference of toilet roll and disinfectant manufacturers.

Blair will be the keynote speaker on Thursday at the International Sanitary Supply Association (ISSA) in Orlando, Florida, British newspaper The Mail on Sunday reported.

Guests will be expected to gift a donation of $,000 to secure the best seats for Blair's talk, which is billed to last just 40 minutes.

It is estimated that Blair, who led the UK as prime minister between 1997 and 2007, has pocketed 20 million from public speaking since he left power.

The billing for his speech trumpets his appearance and gives a glowing review of his time in power: "During his ten years as Prime Minister, Mr Blair transformed Britain's public service through a program of investment and reform in school and hospitals, resulting in more children achieving better school results and more people receiving faster access to health care, with improved survival rates for cancer and heart disease.



It continues: "He has been a strong advocate of a values-based, activist and multilateralist foreign policy - an agenda that combined tackling terrorism and intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo and Sierra Leone."

Blair's spokesman justified Thursday's speech by saying previous speakers at the ISSA event included Margaret Thatcher, George Bush Senior and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Can't think of anyone more qualified, he's been talking shite for years!

Gordon Brown admits affair with Ann Widdecombe

Gordon Brown has sensationally admitted to a secret three year long affair with the Conservative politician Ann Widdecombe.

The married Labour Leader came clean this morning after discovering that details of his affair were due to be published in a tabloid newspaper this weekend.

I thought when I first read it, it was a joke. I must remember to watch " Have I got new's for you " and " Mock the week "

He was always on about his moral compass and his Presbyterian upbringing.What a hypocrite. And he still found time to save the World.

This is a very old story going back to April this year.

http://news-bbc.net/

Gordon Brown has sensationally admitted to a secret three year long affair with the Conservative politician Ann Widdecombe.

The married Labour Leader came clean this morning after discovering that details of his affair were due to be published in a tabloid newspaper this weekend.

The revelations are all the more astonishing due to the fact that Widdecombe 62, a strong supporter of family values, has always claimed that she is a virgin. Mr. Brown and Miss Widdecombe were both unavailable to comment this morning.

It is believed that the unnamed tabloid paper had obtained pictures of the couple in an embarrassing role playing situation involving a rubber chicken and a nurses outfit.

LOL

You know what , I googled Gordon brown and that came up on BBC new's online and I couldn't remember hearing it before. I think I must be reading to many of Fred's muddled post's, I had to check with my wife if we were out of the country when that new's broke.

I am not sure who are the most tacky, Blair, Cameron, or some tory supporters.

But Aid, you do seem to spend a large amount of life either asleep or outside the country.

Perhaps. you could get some paper off Blair you seem to need it.

Ps

I have no love for Blair or his standards, but at least his accounts seem open to scrutiny, unlike many of the tory cabinet ministers and backers, who hide behind off shore tax havens.

Perhaps, the release of information was as a diversion from Andrew Edward "Andy" Coulson,

Far more important the a salacious little story.

If you wake up, have a nice day.

Posted on November 7th, 2010 by Anthony Wells
The full tables for the Sunday Times are now up here. Voting intention is much as usual (though the Lib Dems are at 12%, confirming that 9% really was just a blip), but government approval is down to minus 10.
Up until Tuesday the governments approval rating had been in the range -1 to -5, with around about 40% approving and 44% or so disapproving. In the three sets of results since then government approval has been minus 9 or minus 10, with 37-38% approving and 46-48% disapproving. Whether it was tuition fees, votes for prisoners or the European budget deal, something appears to have given the government a knock.
Turning to some of those issues, on tuition fees 11% think the government should have gone with Brownes full recommendation and introduced unlimited fees, 26% think they got the balance right with fees of 9000, 50% would have preferred lower fees (or a total abolition). A plurality support the governments proposed measures to force universities charging over 6000 to introduce special measures to encourage students from low income families, and to raise the repayment rate and charge higher interest rates to high earning graduates, but all the same 62% think it will result in fewer people from low income households going to university.
On votes for prisoners, as with the YouGov/Sun poll earlier in the week, the idea was overwhelmingly opposed. 17% think prisoners should be allowed to vote, 76% think they should not.
The final group of questions were about government powers on terrorism, and showed the normal public appetite for robust anti-terrorist powers (and comparative lack of concern for civil liberties in relation to terrorist issues). 45% of respondents thought terrorist suspects should be able to be held for 42 days or longer without charge, 27% supported the current 28 day limit and 19% wanted a lower limit. 73% supported the government having the power to impose control orders. 50% thought the security services should be allowed to use information passed to them from other countries that may have been obtained by torture, 31% disagree. On the overarching question of whether people suspected of terrorist offenses should benefit from the full protection of human rights or not, 31% of people thought that should, but 60% thought that some human rights should be suspended for people suspected of terrorist offenses.
In all of these terrorism questions, Conservative voters were the most robust in supporting anti-terrorism laws, and Liberal Democrat supporters the most, well, liberal.

Turning to some of those issues, on tuition fees 11% think the government should have gone with Brownes full recommendation and introduced unlimited fees, 26% think they got the balance right with fees of 9000, 50% would have preferred lower fees (or a total abolition).

Labour wanted unlimited fees then.

aldwickk

The web site that you viewed the news story on is a fake site. It is news-bbc.net. The web site is regestired to an Andrew Firth

and see this for instance

http://twitter.com/andyfirth