Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

"I want this to be the New Labour Government that ended Tory boom and bust forever." Gordon Brown: November 1997 ...

Didn't we all.

What are Cameron's goals? To limit higher education to a selected few, or for those not of his "ilk" to leave "universities" with long term debts.

Raise the unemployment level to 4 million. in order to form the "Big Society" of the unemployed.

I don't even think he is well intentioned.



Brilliant thinking.

Gordon Brown rode roughshod over resistance from the Bank of England to order the disastrous sell-off of Britain's gold reserves, secret papers have revealed.
Treasury documents released under Freedom of Information last night suggest that the Bank was reluctant to sign up to the sale of 395 tonnes of gold at rock-bottom prices in a series of auctions between 1999 and 2002.
The deals, struck when Mr Brown was Chancellor, are thought to have cost Britain 6billion, almost double the 3.3billion cost of Black Wednesday in 1992 when the country crashed out of the European Exchange Rate Mechanism.
Senior officials are said to have warned that the timing of the sale risked losing money for the taxpayer.
Treasury ministers and Tony Blair previously told Parliament that the sale was made 'on the technical advice of the Bank of England'.
One crucial passage in the papers about relations between the Treasury and the Bank has been blacked out.
Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman Vince Cable said: 'It has long been clear that Gordon Brown's gold sell-off was spectacularly bad timing, but these papers show the extent of the opposition from those who saw how much money his actions could lose the country.
'It is clear that the taxpayer is now footing the bill for the Prime Minister's refusal to listen to reason.'

Tony Blair pockets 50K for speech to toilet roll manufacturers

From: NewsCore November 07, 2010 9:39PM



FORMER British prime minister Tony Blair will pocket 50,000 ($81,000) for addressing a US conference of toilet roll and disinfectant manufacturers.

Blair will be the keynote speaker on Thursday at the International Sanitary Supply Association (ISSA) in Orlando, Florida, British newspaper The Mail on Sunday reported.

Guests will be expected to gift a donation of $,000 to secure the best seats for Blair's talk, which is billed to last just 40 minutes.

It is estimated that Blair, who led the UK as prime minister between 1997 and 2007, has pocketed 20 million from public speaking since he left power.

The billing for his speech trumpets his appearance and gives a glowing review of his time in power: "During his ten years as Prime Minister, Mr Blair transformed Britain's public service through a program of investment and reform in school and hospitals, resulting in more children achieving better school results and more people receiving faster access to health care, with improved survival rates for cancer and heart disease.



It continues: "He has been a strong advocate of a values-based, activist and multilateralist foreign policy - an agenda that combined tackling terrorism and intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo and Sierra Leone."

Blair's spokesman justified Thursday's speech by saying previous speakers at the ISSA event included Margaret Thatcher, George Bush Senior and former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Can't think of anyone more qualified, he's been talking shite for years!

Gordon Brown admits affair with Ann Widdecombe

Gordon Brown has sensationally admitted to a secret three year long affair with the Conservative politician Ann Widdecombe.

The married Labour Leader came clean this morning after discovering that details of his affair were due to be published in a tabloid newspaper this weekend.

I thought when I first read it, it was a joke. I must remember to watch " Have I got new's for you " and " Mock the week "

He was always on about his moral compass and his Presbyterian upbringing.What a hypocrite. And he still found time to save the World.

This is a very old story going back to April this year.

http://news-bbc.net/

Gordon Brown has sensationally admitted to a secret three year long affair with the Conservative politician Ann Widdecombe.

The married Labour Leader came clean this morning after discovering that details of his affair were due to be published in a tabloid newspaper this weekend.

The revelations are all the more astonishing due to the fact that Widdecombe 62, a strong supporter of family values, has always claimed that she is a virgin. Mr. Brown and Miss Widdecombe were both unavailable to comment this morning.

It is believed that the unnamed tabloid paper had obtained pictures of the couple in an embarrassing role playing situation involving a rubber chicken and a nurses outfit.

LOL

You know what , I googled Gordon brown and that came up on BBC new's online and I couldn't remember hearing it before. I think I must be reading to many of Fred's muddled post's, I had to check with my wife if we were out of the country when that new's broke.

I am not sure who are the most tacky, Blair, Cameron, or some tory supporters.

But Aid, you do seem to spend a large amount of life either asleep or outside the country.

Perhaps. you could get some paper off Blair you seem to need it.

Ps

I have no love for Blair or his standards, but at least his accounts seem open to scrutiny, unlike many of the tory cabinet ministers and backers, who hide behind off shore tax havens.

Perhaps, the release of information was as a diversion from Andrew Edward "Andy" Coulson,

Far more important the a salacious little story.

If you wake up, have a nice day.

Posted on November 7th, 2010 by Anthony Wells
The full tables for the Sunday Times are now up here. Voting intention is much as usual (though the Lib Dems are at 12%, confirming that 9% really was just a blip), but government approval is down to minus 10.
Up until Tuesday the governments approval rating had been in the range -1 to -5, with around about 40% approving and 44% or so disapproving. In the three sets of results since then government approval has been minus 9 or minus 10, with 37-38% approving and 46-48% disapproving. Whether it was tuition fees, votes for prisoners or the European budget deal, something appears to have given the government a knock.
Turning to some of those issues, on tuition fees 11% think the government should have gone with Brownes full recommendation and introduced unlimited fees, 26% think they got the balance right with fees of 9000, 50% would have preferred lower fees (or a total abolition). A plurality support the governments proposed measures to force universities charging over 6000 to introduce special measures to encourage students from low income families, and to raise the repayment rate and charge higher interest rates to high earning graduates, but all the same 62% think it will result in fewer people from low income households going to university.
On votes for prisoners, as with the YouGov/Sun poll earlier in the week, the idea was overwhelmingly opposed. 17% think prisoners should be allowed to vote, 76% think they should not.
The final group of questions were about government powers on terrorism, and showed the normal public appetite for robust anti-terrorist powers (and comparative lack of concern for civil liberties in relation to terrorist issues). 45% of respondents thought terrorist suspects should be able to be held for 42 days or longer without charge, 27% supported the current 28 day limit and 19% wanted a lower limit. 73% supported the government having the power to impose control orders. 50% thought the security services should be allowed to use information passed to them from other countries that may have been obtained by torture, 31% disagree. On the overarching question of whether people suspected of terrorist offenses should benefit from the full protection of human rights or not, 31% of people thought that should, but 60% thought that some human rights should be suspended for people suspected of terrorist offenses.
In all of these terrorism questions, Conservative voters were the most robust in supporting anti-terrorism laws, and Liberal Democrat supporters the most, well, liberal.

Turning to some of those issues, on tuition fees 11% think the government should have gone with Brownes full recommendation and introduced unlimited fees, 26% think they got the balance right with fees of 9000, 50% would have preferred lower fees (or a total abolition).

Labour wanted unlimited fees then.

aldwickk

The web site that you viewed the news story on is a fake site. It is news-bbc.net. The web site is regestired to an Andrew Firth

and see this for instance

http://twitter.com/andyfirth

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6. There is still a stupid smile on your face .

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This is me,

Both very funny.
OK you caught me on the first one in all six areas.
Didn't ring Annie as I don't qualify, I don't have a pickup truck.

Lisbon Treaty summary
The 294 page Treaty of Lisbon sets up a three tier politburo dictatorship, and came into force on 1st January 2009. It gives the EU more powers than the 465 page EU Constitution by amending and adding the missing clauses to the existing five treaties. So you need to read all six treaties together, thousands of unreadable pages which includes Maastricht; and then see through its concealment and deception to get the full picture. There will be no more treaties: the six complete the EU.

Article 1-1a Unlike Britain, the EU nation is atheist; its laws are not based on Christianity.
1-4 New article 2. It is the EU's values that count, not the wishes of the people. The state comes first, soviet style.
1a and Article 2.1-6 make it very clear our new nation will be the European Union, not Britain.
2-2 and 2.3 Our former borders will mean nothing.
2-4 Gives the EU the power to force Britain into the Euro.
3a Puts the EUs former nations into the same position Soviet satellite states enjoyed.
3a-3 Compels former nations to obey the EU. They shall carry out the EU's tasks, and may not oppose it.
3b-1 Conferral - the EU will not exceed the powers it has taken in the Treaties. Negated by 3b.3:
3b-3 If local powers can better be used by the EU, the EU will use them.
3b-4. Proportionality: The EU will not use more force than is necessary to compel us to comply with the Treaties.
Article 6 The EU recognises its own Charter of the EU's Rights of 2007.
6-2 The EU accedes to the EU Convention on Human Rights, but not where it affects the EU's power.
6-3.c Paves the way for The European Council to become independent of Heads of State, and become a politburo.
Article 8. Equality. In glorious Soviet style. And we are forced to accept EU citizenship.
Article 8A-1 to 4 Prepares the way for the abolition of Westminster:
8A-2 Heads of state can be bypassed in favour of "government;" National Parliaments bypassed direct to citizens.
8A-3. Decisions to be taken as close as possible to the citizen. Eurospeak for Regions, not Parliaments.
8A-4. Will be used to abolish our Conservative, Labour and Lib-Dem Parties. Its the old EU constitution I-46-4 word for word: Political parties to be at the European level. The Madrid conference defined this in 1999 as parties with voters in 10 or more former nations. Our parties count voters in just one nation. Goodbye to the Lib-Lab-Con.
8B-3. The Commission may use consultation. Ballots, elections, referendums or democracy are not to be its way.
8B-4 One million citizens may petition the Commission to implement the glorious EU Treaties. We can only agree, Soviet style. Old EU constitution clause I-47-4.
9 and 9A Implement EU constitution clauses I-19 to I-27 List of Institutions. Confirms their interest in the Regions.
There are three governing bodies which are unelected politburos, soviet style, each with up to 27 members:
9B The European Council is made up of heads of state, or "government" which could be any politician of their choosing. It meets 4 times a year, and chooses (and can fire) its President for 2.5 years, two terms maximum. He can be anyone from anywhere but not a head of state; he can fire a Commissioner.
9C The Council of Ministers, now The Council, is senior bureaucrat level; controls laws, the budget and policy.
9D The third level is the Commissioners, 20 people, anyone, from each country, provided (clause 3) he is not anti-EU. The Commission is the executive, the government or bureaucracy.
These three are politburos where EU politicians choose politicians; there are no elections to positions of power. Unlike Westminster, the EU Parliament in Brussels, the only elected body, has no executive power; it is a sham.
9E An EU foreign minister shall be appointed, and will be a Vice President of the Commission.
9F EU courts and EU judges shall enforce the six EU Treaties and former nations shall comply.
Article 10 Enhanced Cooperation: Former nations may wish to reinforce the EU's integration using any powers remaining outside the EU's absolute power. If they don't, the Council can enforce enhanced cooperation if former nations won't cooperate. Clause 3: Only cooperating nations may vote in the council.
10-4 We must obey the acquis communautaire, 170,000 pages of active EU law. (EU regulations millions of pages)
10A c-3 Scores of clauses like this one confirm the EU is a military union. A military dictatorship.

That is just the first 26 pages of the 294. The six treaties repetitively remove all Westminsters powers.
There are no provisions for elections to Westminster, which will close. The EUs 120,000 regulations will close most of Britains 4.5 million small businesses and control our lives more closely than were Soviet citizens. Harmonising our laws with the EU over 36 years has given us the laws of a police state, which the EU will enforce. Lisbon (illegally) took primacy over the British Constitution, which it nullifies, and as far as the EU, their puppet government in Westminster and our corrupted courts are concerned, the EU became our nation, and Britain was abolished as a nation on 1st January 2009.
For the full Treaty text: http://eutruth.org.uk/lisbontreaty.pdf David Noakes. 07974 437 097 07974 437 097

http://www.eutruth.org.uk/lisbononepage.html

David Noakes sounds like just the kind of jerk you'd want to avoid at a party.

Don't forget Fred , but I don't expect they let out, its a wonder they still let him go online.