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Falklands Oil and Gas (FOGL) (FOGL)     

Proselenes - 13 Aug 2011 04:53

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cynic - 29 Jul 2012 17:40 - 1081 of 2393

P50 = 50% chance of finding anything - they think ....... if they get the right bit of "i think" then it'll be case of just how much of anything have they found ...... and i see prostate is back on the (baby)oil tack once more

required field - 29 Jul 2012 20:42 - 1082 of 2393

Cynic, Marky... what if they strike lucky.....ok Prosels ramps a bit but you have to admit that there is a big chance of them hitting something commercial based on the firm's seismics.....five targets in one well is not to be sneezed at !...he does put some good stuff on here, perhaps too repeatable....but let's give him credit.....he's a good blogger (never know whether you put one g or two for the spelling) to have around...

HARRYCAT - 29 Jul 2012 21:02 - 1083 of 2393

Prolific blogger, rf, not necessarilya good blogger! But can't fault the enthusiasm.
Am happy to hold FOGL and will trade in & out when the drilling starts! The P? figure is just wishful thinking, imo and is only (semi) useful to long term holders.

markymar - 29 Jul 2012 21:59 - 1084 of 2393

Big chance of them hitting some thing RF......not at 15% chance of success it aint.

Proselenes - 30 Jul 2012 02:26 - 1085 of 2393

Very misleading cynic.

P50 means its the median estimate for the size of any discovery - should a discovery be made. It has nothing to do with the chances of finding gas or oil.


cynic - 29 Jul 2012 17:40 - 1081 of 1084
P50 = 50% chance of finding anything - they think

Proselenes - 31 Jul 2012 02:08 - 1086 of 2393

Its a sign.............. 4 targets good and 1 bad from the Loligo 5

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18907147

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Proselenes - 31 Jul 2012 06:56 - 1087 of 2393

Rig is now underway, moved about 50km over night in the direction of Loligo.


http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/default.aspx?mmsi=308243000&centerx=-58.13182&centery=-53.6912&zoom=10&type_color=9


The fun now begins for FOGL..............

cynic - 31 Jul 2012 09:00 - 1088 of 2393

i'm moe than happy to be corrected or are you just moving words about?

Shortie - 31 Jul 2012 10:32 - 1089 of 2393

P50 means its the median estimate for the size of any discovery - should a discovery be made. Now thats a statement for splitting hairs!!

I prefer Cynic's 50% chance as its more realistic that anything will be found at all. No point thinking about this is terms of estimated size of 'find' when 'find' has yet to be 'found'...

wessexmario - 31 Jul 2012 10:38 - 1090 of 2393

Pro is right, there is a difference between the probability of finding (the CoS), and the estimated amount of oil (a volume somewhere between the P10 and P90 values).

ie. with poor sesmic and no field history, you might think there's a small chance (low CoS) of finding a certain quantity of oil (a P10-P90 range of possible volume), but with good sesmic and an established oil field, another well might target the same P10-P90 range, but the CoS would be much higher.

But putting it another way..
you could look at any well as a black/white 50-50 split...
either it's commercial, or it's not.

Shortie - 31 Jul 2012 11:05 - 1091 of 2393

Pro is right to the text book, I didn't think Cynic was being 'very misleading' in his earlier post but more technically incorrect. All the same Pro's posts highlight the chances of the size of discovery when I think the chances of finding anything at all is more relevant. This is an unchartered field, no history and you can argue the quality of data. Probability estimates are better suited to established fields with history and I think are misleading when used against new drills on unchartered fields.

Proselenes - 31 Jul 2012 12:04 - 1092 of 2393

2010 was a good year for year end AIM stocks rally. 2011 was a bad year. Hoping 2012 is another August to April AIM stocks rally on lots of ECB and US Fed stimulus. They have talked the bad stuff, now its time to talk everything up again.

If 2012 follows 2010 and an August 12 to April 13 rally, it will be good.

Below is the FTSE AIM for 2010/11 and 12 so far, looking like a repeat of 2010 imo so far. Its on the support line of 2010 and 2011 - should be primed now for a surge upwards into year end.

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cynic - 31 Jul 2012 16:38 - 1093 of 2393

and to clarify further .... using my "meaning", P90 = bugger all chance of finding anything, whereas as P10 is what should prick up the ears - rather than prick up the arse with P90 ..... i guess that makes P50 little more than flaccid - i.e. of fuck all interest!

grannyboy - 31 Jul 2012 17:01 - 1094 of 2393

So cynic you won't be bothering to invest in FOGL then?..

cynic - 31 Jul 2012 18:02 - 1095 of 2393

i hold a relatively modest number as i have frequently posted ..... i held about double that number a few weeks ago but concluded that it was not warranted ..... i used the basis that if the share went to zero, as BOR attempted, then the loss would be acceptable ...... if FOGL hit a bonanza, then i have a nice base from which to build

Proselenes - 01 Aug 2012 03:51 - 1096 of 2393

Rig is on its way at the moment, as of now, 3:50am 1st August the rig is circa 144 miles to the south-west of the Loligo drill site.

Slow going at the moment, could take another 40 hours or so to get the Loligo drill site based on current progress.

Proselenes - 01 Aug 2012 08:16 - 1097 of 2393

Interesting close yesterday and open today, we saw UT trades at higher than mid price.

Indicates potentially a buyer is now in the market and the seller is turning the tap off perhaps.

Might be a few strong blue days ahead now.

blackdown - 01 Aug 2012 08:22 - 1098 of 2393

Or might not.

Gerponville18 - 01 Aug 2012 09:21 - 1099 of 2393

Proselenes:

Trivial question for you!

On the share Trade Streamer......What doe's O, AT and UT mean?

Seems to be more sells than buys.......Albeit, the FOGL share is starting to rise!

I was going to buy last evening, but bottled out........Should have bought?

Proselenes - 01 Aug 2012 09:30 - 1100 of 2393

In simple terms...........


An O trade is a manual trade, where you engage a broker to buy shares for you.

An AT trade is an Automatic Trade - so if you ask the broker to buy 20K stock for you, you might see a sudden rush of 5 AT trades for small amounts, and then your O trade for 20K.

This means the broker put into the system a buy for 20K, the stock was hoovered up and then sold to you at the price agreed. AT trades are run by computers based on the desires of orders from brokers/fundies etc...

UT are Uncrossing Trades - these happen during the opening and closing auctions and at auctions at any other time of the day. People can load buy and sell orders at auctions and the price of the trade at which the auction closes is reported as a UT trade along with the amount of stock agreed to be sold/bought at that price.
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