Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Talking of paranoia.....

Banking group HSBC has been forced to defend its new advertising campaign which has Brexiteers who view it as “anti-Brexit”.

The campaign, launched just days before Parliament votes on the government’s Brexit plan, celebrates the influence of other countries and cultures on the United Kingdom.

It references how much Britons enjoy drinking coffee from Colombia, watching American movies, assembling flat-pack furniture from Sweden and using mobile phones and tablets from Korea.

It talks about the country’s enjoyment of Dutch beer and foods from around the world like tikka masala.

The “We Are Not An Island” campaign is a continuation of the global bank’s “Together We Thrive” campaign which celebrates the UK’s diversity and multicuturalism. Regional variations have been used at billboard sites across the country.

Some Brexiteers complained the marketing campaign was “anti-Brexit” and took to Twitter to express their view.

MEP and former UKIP spokesman Patrick O’Flynn tweeted that the campaign was “really odd and ideologically aggressive”.

Columnist Tim Montgomerie tweeted: “We are an island actually - full of villages and towns your bank deserted; of cleaners you underpaid; and of money laundering and other laws you bent.”

He added: “Thanks for the lecture but we’ll manage without it.”

Twitter user Vince Cordall commented: “It’s about time we stopped naval gazing about the demise of the EU and started to appreciate the bigger picture.”

However, many others shared the adverts and billboards in support of the campaign.

Sandra Thompson-Drew said: “Saw this in today’s Metro I completely agree HSBC - we are part of something far, far bigger. Happy New Year and here’s hoping it’s a year that brings us together and not one that drives us further apart.”

Tiernan Brady said: “I simply love the HSBC ad - we are all connected & every bit of our lives crosses the lives, stories and cultures of others - we just have to notice. Anyway, I simply love the ad.”

Ben Tasker tweeted: “For a group who use the term ‘snowflake’ Brexiters really are a touchy lot. A set of fireworks, a single joke in a Doctor Who episode, and now a HSBC ad, all apparently Brexit snubs and causing upset.”

A spokesman for HSBC said: “We believe that the people, communities and businesses in the UK thrive most when connected and open.

“Our ‘Global Citizen’ campaign is central to this, and with the ‘We Are Not An Island’ ads we are reinforcing our strong belief that the things that make us quintessentially British are the things that make us inescapably international.”

Tikka masala - wasn't that created in Scotland? But I suppose that qualifies it. As for HSBC, I wonder what that stands for and where it came from.

Oh, the convenience of a screen shot.

The daft Tories that support all these amendments against their own are only going to find that once we have made a clean break they will be powerless and have to support TM if the want to keep their seats.

Talking of paranoia.

It's is all those b. foreigners from Europe which get me down.

Can't trust them.

Any of them, including their descendants.

Send them all back.
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But, what is interesting is the "brilliant" political referendum stunt by Cameron and Osborne and leading tories to stop the bickering and small-mindedness in the tory party has split the tories and to a certain degree in the labour party.

The political farce has been going on and intensive by little "politicians" advocating for their own political future or "benefits".

One of the things which annoys me in this farce, is that the public is paying the bills for the various posturings.

I hope at a G/E this period of incompetence is remembered.

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Woman, be gone.


8-)

Good job you are tolerant and have patience Fred, as the next G/E is a long way away. :-)

No seats to vote for in the EU either, such a shame!!!

fred doesn't vote, so don't know why he makes so much noise

Repetition.

Are you still dribbling?

Anyone know where to buy anti-Brexit car stickers?

:o)

Get a brush and bucket of paint and find Manuel's old banger and paint your message over his windscreen.

Won't make any difference to his driving, as he can't see further than the end of his nose anyway.

Fred,

I had to pop across the border into France earlier this afternoon (you know, no passport control, no customs checks, took under 1 second, these things are easy in mainland Europe) to visit the supermarket. Anyway, I saw this on the meat counter and it reminded me of somebody, but I can't think who exactly.

Any ideas?

:o)

I was gonna ask Mrs Bercow about the car stickers. She knows about these things apparently.

:o)

even easier one year when i was cycling ..... forgot my passport but there was no obvious border of any kind when passing from france to germany across the rhine ....... bit like the good old days in 1945


more seriously .....
there's no problem entering many non-european countries any more than there is a need for a visa .... and that's nothing to do with having an eu passport

CNG - Are you sure that picture (11371) was not a reflection or a selfie?

Yes, but as a foreigner and seen as an aunty european. It may take a week to pass through customs.

Remember coming back through Andorra into France and watching vehicles being stopped unloaded and searched by French Customs Officers. Some vehicle were held up for hours.

Remember the old days of some travellers being "strip searched". Not everybody, but enough to show French authority.

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PS.

I use to drive regularly from Portugal into Spain and never saw a Customs border, but remember being followed by Police for about 50miles after crossing the border into Spain from France.

(I think the might have been thinking of booking me for speeding, or didn't know what my vehicle was.)

Rules and Regulations will be changed without consent of Little England.

perhaps only those who were pretty enough

Dil and IT.

Quick.

Should be able to sell a few Jaguars to China, when we quit the EU.

Trade outlooks better than ever after Brexit.

Tech developer quits UK saying Brexit has ‘killed’ his business

A tech developer with a successful London e-learning company has said he has already quit Britain after 10 high-flying years because of the uncertainty and “mindless tribalism” caused by Brexit.

China market is weakening, Apple for example, and JLR got their engine strategy wrong with too many diesels..Now what has all this got to do with Brexit?

Brexit : 9 000 emplois de la City gagnés par l’Europe

They are probably going to teach the French how it is done. Part of our overseas aid program.
Fred, I would touch anything built by Jaguar Land Rover, so they can sell as much as they care to China. Only daft footballers and mothers on the school run use a Range Rover.