Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

The public are sick of hearing everyone`s views,
Please just get us out of there is most everyone`s views
Time to pull your fingers out regadless if you were in or out
Most are past caring
We are feed up with this endless debate
Just show these Europeans
We have long carried much of the weight
Can we escape those that plot to remain
Raise your voices
Unfold the Flag
The Great British Union still has a great deal of clout.

From todays C&C

Even the European Council on Foreign Relations agrees, issuing a paper titled “The Continent-Wide Rise of Euroscepticism”, which declares “Euroscepticism has now spread across the continent like a virus.”

Ha ha you lot remind me of that song from Supertramp in the 70's

https://www.last.fm/music/Supertramp/_/Dreamer

No good hiding under the duvet Stan, Europe is a busted flush.

Busted flush? that reminds me where's Johnson these days?... I miss his brexit rambling.

Stan no dreamer link is working it seems.

Yes it is CT just click on the "play track" button on the middle of the pic.

Nope Stan must be my firewall blocking it - still the track is on you tube.

DREAM ON - AEROSMITH | LYRICS more suitable for Brexit remainers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6YbVRr0_K0

Hils , inflation down , wage increases up.

No wonder they brought their report out yesterday , might have looked different today , next week , next month .... never believe a forecast or read too much into an actual figure v a forecast.


Good example , weather forecasts more than 5 days in advance.

Wages increases up? What’s that zero hours wage to part time wage...Brilliant I don’t think.

More bad news.

Ford has said a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for the firm's manufacturing operations in the UK and that it would do "whatever is necessary" to protect its business.
The comments come after a report the carmaker was stepping up preparations to move production out of the UK.
Ford declined to comment directly on The Times' report, but said it had long warned against a "hard Brexit".
The company is the latest carmaker to warn on the risks of a no-deal Brexit.
"Such a situation would be catastrophic for the UK auto industry and Ford's manufacturing operations in the country," the company said in a statement.

"We will take whatever action is necessary to preserve the competitiveness of our European business."... Ominous I think you'll agree!

what a stunning gaffe ......
john mcdonnell calls churchill a villain

though no doubt taken out of context, that will hardly endear him and his party to the voting public

Little Man.


John McDonnell has called Sir Winston Churchill a "villain" over his role in dealing with striking miners in 1910.

At a Politico event, when asked to give a one-word answer on whether Churchill was a hero or villain, the shadow chancellor said: "Tonypandy - villain".

During the Tonypandy riots of 1910, troops were sent out to control striking miners who wrecked town centre shops and mine owners' property.""



Churchill was scuttled out of South Wales with his tail between his legs.

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Have a look at Churchill's whole history.

Did you actually read the CPI report, or just look at the headline for Brownie Points, Dilbert?

Inflation was pretty much in line with forecasts, and the downward pressure came from falling energy costs - not exactly Brexit related, was it? There hasn't been any wages data this week that I'm aware of, so I don't know what you're referring to???

But if you want to talk about the (not so) Great British economics data, let's take a look at Monday's numbers shall we?

Manufacturing Production (YoY) (Dec) -2.1% vs -1.1% expected
Industrial Production (MoM) (Dec) -0.5% vs 0.2% expected
Industrial Production (YoY) (Dec) -0.9% vs -0.4% expected
Manufacturing Production (MoM) (Dec) -0.7% vs 0.2% expected
Total Business Investment (YoY) (Q4) -3.7% vs -2.9% expected
Total Business Investment (QoQ) (Q4) -1.4% vs 0.2% expected

And, of course there's this little gem...

Gross Domestic Product (MoM) (Dec) -0.4% vs 0.0% expected, 0.2% last

As I said the other day, did you really vote to be poorer???

But hey, it'll be good to take back control!

Blinkered little man.

Polish your glasses and read : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-29701767


Maybe aware of your feet of clay.


The 10 greatest controversies of Winston Churchill's career
By Tom Heyden
BBC News Magazine

Hils , get over the expected bit. It's just a guess based on so many variables that it's never likely to be right.

If forecasters were any good , buying shares or trading currency would be a no brainer.

How are the German figures looking for the same period , actual not forecast ? Heard they are horrendous but hey ho they are blaming Brexit.

Maybe Merkel should pull her finger out and get a deal done.

Hmmm , news out today that Germany narrowly avoids recession.

Maybe they beat forecasts though Hils so that means it's good news doesn't it ?