* M0NEY-AM G0LF DAY EVENT: 27 HOLES, INCL. SUSTENANCE & PRIZES (IN ADDITION TO M0NEY-AM SPONSORED PRIZES!) on: -
THURSDAY, 08 JUNE, 2006 *

So several months have passed... Based on the success of last Summer's Event at Longcliffe G.C., a few of you have asked me to take over the reigns from PTH and organise another G0LF M0NEY-AM DAY again based in the MIDLANDS. This is fairEST to the majority coming from all over the UK! From initial feedback (reflecting on 2005 36-Hole hot mid-Summer's day!), the popular view for a 2006 Event has been agreed, as follows: -

* Tea/Coffee on arrival.
* 9 Holes (4BBB 3/4 Stab.) Comp.
* Sandwiches/Lunch.
** 18 Holes (MAIN INDIVIDUAL (FULL HANDICAP) STABLEFORD EVENT) with M-AM and Golfing Prizes for Winners, incl. "Nearest-to-the-Pin" on the 9th. Hole and "The-Longest-Drive" on the 18th. Hole.
* 3-Course Evening Dinner (full waitress service), incl. coffee & mints + Prize Presentation/Mic. Table.

(** ADDITIONAL PRIZES from our generous SPONSORS include: - 3 months worth of Shares Magazine sent to the homes of EACH COMPETITOR every week. The Overall Winner will get The Money-AM Annual Golf Challenge Cup to keep for good plus 1 year's worth of Money-AM Level 2 service worth 357.50 + Vat. The Runner-Up and Third Placed Winners will each get a medal to keep plus 6 months' level 2.)

Venue: - H0RSLEY L0DGE G.C., Belper, Derbyshire (Championship Meadowland Course with American-type Greens). Refreshments will be in the On-Site Kingfisher Restaurant. Entry Fee is: - 60 per Competitor which will cover all of the above ** plus enough to buy some additional golfing prizes.
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For the golfers amongst you, MoneyAM is holding its annual Golf Day Event on Thursday 8th June 2006. This event, kindly organised by one of our users "markusantonius", will be taking place at the Horsley Lodge Golf Club, Belper, Derbyshire.

Entry fee for the day is 60 (payable in advance), which includes:

27 Holes of competition play
Refreshments throughout the day
Golf Prizes
MoneyAM Sponsored Prizes
Regards

MoneyAM Support
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If you can give me a fixed date , i would like to play.

Fliper, See above - THURSDAY, 08 JUNE, 2006 A.D. !

(What is your handicap, presuming you are keen?)

Ian, Any chance you could change the Header - inserting the new date (no longer May!)? Thanks.

Sorry ,I have just read above. I can say red backwards! Share dealing handicap 24 sitting on chp (may get cut on this one) Golf handicap of 6.

No wonder EWR won last year, off 20 handicap, should be 7/8 handicap, no man should have anymore than 1 extra stroke per hole!!!!

Actually, Safety - funny you should say this - coz we had a massive debate last year which went to vote re: 3/4 or full - In the end, I and a few others had to give way to 100% allowance which obviously benefs the higher handicappers! - Otherwise Yours Truly would've been crowned King - At close, I had to settle for 2nd. Prize!!

Sorry, Eric :o)

Not a problem marcus: mind, don't know about this Sutton thing; just thought you were Mark, alias markusantonius, alias the Shark. Home course advantage this time round and not even giving us an 18 hole warm-up! Let us know when you want the dosh - and don't invest it in SEO!

Eric

I play in lots of Seniors Stableford Competitions throughout the North West and 3/4 handicap is now accepted as the norm, a single figure handicapper will find it almost impossible to compete against someone with 20 strokes or more unless they are absolute duffers, but most are not, and obviously Eric isn't one !!!!

Can I ask where you play, Safety?

BTW, just FTR, I TOTALLY AGREE with you here and if you check last year's thread, you will be read my grounds for arguing your sentiments EXACTLY. However The M-AM 2005 Event at Longcliffe GC actually went, as follows: -
1st. 20-handicapper
2nd. 10-handicapper
3rd. 13-handicapper

At Longcliffe, PTHolden and the others decided that a 3/4 h'cap format would deter entries from the higher handicappers. Hence we went with full allowance. Despite my own personal opinion, I do think we should stick with the same format in 2006. Please believe me when I say that Eric's age-defying stamina and performance defied all logic in the blistering heat, last Summer. He was the only high handicapper who came anyway near the prizes (must be all those herbs and clean living?) on a very tough course. But if he wins again then I will definitely insist on a dr*gs-test!!

Repeat: I support your view on 3/4 (or 7/8). But I can assure you that HL will be a vastly different proposition not least because 11 holes require shots over ponds and as both PTH and Predateur will testify to - it's not an easy challenge for hackers!!

Anyway, after all that - are you joining us, Safety?

My vote would be 7/8 ,or if full max 18 shots.

Hark at you lot moaning - ive played 4 rounds in 12 months, my handicap has elapsed and markus is still making me play off 5!!!! in a full hcap comp - chances anywhere between slim and none

Ps Unless he hasnt told the rest of you markus has bought himself a new putter - obviously worried about the competition!!! reminds me, must dust mine down lol


Markus

am away for a few days, date looks fine to me, let me know when you want a cheque

Cheque will do tomorrow, Fundy. Payable to moi, just sign it and leave the rest blank. I'll fill in the exact figure myself, OK! :o)

Fliper - are you entering this year? And yes, like I posted to Safety, I agree with pro-rata h'cap reductions. But fear this will deter mid to high h'cappers. Trust me - there will be no bandit scores. FYI: the average gross score during the 2001/02 HL Golf Club Season (all Comps./all Divisions) was: 94 (+23 over Par). Every hole is different, Water is omnipresent, the Rough is punishing and the Greens are contoured. Just ask Predateur and PTHolden if you need a second opinion.

No hacker will win the M-AM Event this June, trust me!

markusantonius,

Blackpool North Shore Golf Club

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Thanks, Stockdog - got your mail, BTW. Very interesting - I didn't realise till last month that you can also offset CGT losses going back as far as 5 years, 10 months (under certain conditions).

G0LF - played at Blackpool North Shore, may moons ago, Safety. Also Fairhaven and of course - Lytham St. Annes.
Are you not tempted to pit your wits against us for The M-AM Challenge?

I think I've confirmed that I've put the date in the diary - with Rottweilers either side to make sure no-one gets in there.

Looking forward to it.

Don't want to get into the handicapping arrangements - life's too short

Re the handicap conversation, my own suggestion is a maximum handicap of, say, 18. At our club, and most in the area, the 3/4 rule applies to match-play but 1 to Stableford or Medal. I suspect I generally can play to 18 in away matches: Tenterden is a tough course and I reckon that handicaps are generally a couple fo shots above what they would be elsewhere. The answer is the SLOPE system (as used in Scotland and on continent) which rates the individual course but, whilst the EGU are working on it, its seems unlikely that it will be with us in the next few years. I think the lower handicappers would be happier; my conscience will be easier when I win again and it will rule out a bandit coming in and winning off 26! I reckon I might still have won last year on count-back!

Eric

Mark,

I have added the new date to the header for you,

Ian

The English golf union website recommends full hcp for singles stableford. The only time 3/4 is used is for 4BBB. All Enlish clubs shud be following this. In the dim distant past it used to be 7/8ths, it has never been 3/4 for singles in my time.

We are playing a singles competition not a better ball

Go to English golf union/golf clubs/handicapping info/stroke allowances

If I can put in my 2 cents worth.

I agree with Bob, any Stableford events I play in these days full handicap is allowed.

Am sure Peter had full handicap last year.

Maximum handicap should be 18.

Predateur

If I may add one other regulation ............. only putters allowed must have been owned for at least three years !!!!!!!!!

Predateur