Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

IG poll indicator
since i looked yesterday, tories have moved stronger again

i guess few are impressed by corbyn's continuing nonsensical waffle, even among "normal" traditional labour voters

Nothing to do with the constant smearing by the media and tory cohorts.

There is a smell of a Crosby about it.

Who " Bing Crosby " .

Yes.

Don't worry your pretty little head about it.

no fred ..... i listened to the labour spokesmen (plural) on both tv and radio ..... it really is a load of rubbish ....... neither direction nor purpose nor any strength of leadership to be seen

Blow for Nicola Sturgeon as support for Scottish independence plummets
25th April 2017
Nicola Sturgeon has been dealt a huge blow after a new poll revealed that support for Scottish independence has plummeted.

Scottish independence Support for a second Scottish referendum is falling.
The Kantar survey found backing among Scots voters for the break-up of the UK has slumped from 47% to 40% since August last year.

It also showed that nearly half of them do not want a second independence referendum to ever take place

Manuel.

Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Hussein, Gadafi, Mussolini were all strong leaders.

(Could have fitted in the next tory cabinet.)

All believed that they knew that their thoughts were correct and right for the country and what their countries and people needed.

Or what they "wanted".

Fred

Interesting list, most of them claiming to be of the socialist/of the people bent.

Funny old world eh?

Yes and no.

They had delusions of grandeur.

Better add yourself to the list then.

unfortunately, corbyn has no perceptible leadership qualities at all

and even you would or should be hard-pushed to say that TM has delusions of grandeur

you and many others may not like that she is prepared to take a tough stance with brussels, but rather that than some namby-pamby with no conviction or fire

as i have said before, it will be decades or even never before we find whether voting for "out" is the disaster some predicted, or an absolute blessing, which others claim

one thing is certain - the referendum was for uk to be taken out of eu on terms to be negotiated
this is now in hand much as you may dislike it

well that's just too bad, not least because you almost certainly did not cast a vote at all ..... so stop the grizzling, griping and sniping and accept the reality

Only ones praying in Wales Fred are the Labour Mp's about to be made redundant.

Already wiped out in Scotland and about to get the same treatment in Wales.

That's what happens when you ignore this wishes of the electorate.

Martini,

Certified sane last week.

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Manuel,

I think Corbyn can defend himself better than I could.

As far as the matron, who is like a rock is concerned, she has u-turned and u-turned and wobbled like a jelly for the last 6 months.

When she made her declaration on immigration she failed and backpedaled. Look at her figures. Look at the apathy left in the "Home Office".

Who wobbled on whether to advocate stay in the EU and market until she saw her chance.

The type of lady whose words I would decline to believe.

=-=-=-

However, she is just a side issue.

What I foresee, or fear is the chaos which will occur, due to her and her arrogance of herself, Cameron and the tory party.

I hope I am wrong.

-=-=-=-=

By the way, are you sure you not an ex-boarding school boy, as you certainly seem to like an old matron.

Probably the reason why the tory new boys follow like sheep and the old rams give her a hard time.

Manuel

Food for thought.

Some UKIP and other Brexiters.


Patriotism and Nationalism.

The Difference Between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility while the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to a war.

Sydney J Harris

What "ism" is selling out to the enemy called Fred?

Talk about living in a fantasy World Freda you just talk utter bo++ocks . You need help .

cynic - 25 Apr 2017 19:55 - 76537 of 76542
unfortunately, corbyn has no perceptible leadership qualities at all

and even you would or should be hard-pushed to say that TM has delusions of grandeur

you and many others may not like that she is prepared to take a tough stance with brussels, but rather that than some namby-pamby with no conviction or fire

as i have said before, it will be decades or even never before we find whether voting for "out" is the disaster some predicted, or an absolute blessing, which others claim

one thing is certain - the referendum was for uk to be taken out of eu on terms to be negotiated
this is now in hand much as you may dislike it

well that's just too bad, not least because you almost certainly did not cast a vote at all ..... so stop the grizzling, griping and sniping and accept the reality

cynic what a good post I like it

good grief! .... praise from a most unexpected source

timeo danaos et dona ferentes :-)

See Fred's still here chatting total b.......s as usual ... couldn't be bothered to read through it ,one line was enough.

below is quite interesting ..... should give plenty of scope for you guys to argue about during the day :-)

Leaked Labour script puts 'core party issues' above Brexit


Document for general election campaign pledges help for NHS, schools and social care in contrast to Tory ‘privilege’ policies

A leaked general election script for Labour MPs reveals that the party will direct its campaign focus to core issues including schools, social care and the NHS, rather than immigration, defence and Brexit.

The document passed to the Guardian reveals that the party’s dominant line of attack will be that the Conservatives are for “the privileged few” and that Labour will be “for the many, not the few”.

Immigration
one of the key issues for the party in its northern heartlands, where constituents voted in large numbers to leave the EU – is not mentioned. MPs are told to emphasise that the election “is not a rerun of the EU referendum” and that the party only objects to the Tories’ “reckless approach to Brexit”.
In a speech on Tuesday, the shadow Brexit secretary, Keir Starmer, said Labour would not make controlling immigration its priority as the UK leaves the EU.

The script, a two-page document that mentions Jeremy Corbyn’s name only once, says the election should be seen as a chance for “a fresh start”. The position will be that the Conservatives have a “reckless approach to Brexit [which] threatens to put millions of jobs at risk”.

Labour will promise to increase spending on infrastructure and public services, the script says.
Among the key pledges are a £10-an-hour living wage, a national investment bank to create £500bn to fund capital projects and infrastructure, and a guarantee on the triple lock for pensions.

The script also invites MPs to say a Labour government “will always give the NHS the money it needs”.

On education, MPs are to say Labour will focus on “reducing class sizes and driving up teaching standards” while the Tories “only look backwards to bring back selection, which will benefit only the lucky few”.

Spending pledges include free school meals for primary school pupils, reintroduction of the education maintenance allowance, and maintenance grants for students from low-income and middle-income backgrounds.

The script says a Labour government would build more than 1m homes in five years, with at least half of these in the social rent sector.

The script makes little or no mention of topics where the Conservatives are traditionally strong, including defence and the armed forces, and crime. Labour MPs are handed an attack line, however, which says the Tories “broke their promise to protect the police” and that “more than 20,000 police officers and 6,000 police community support jobs have been cut since 2010”.