Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Gausie
- 31 Dec 2010 13:58
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Haystack - 1.3 million? Where's that from?
And the west bank law concerns selling land to Jews - not israelis. I know you often confuse these two words, you're not anti-semitic just anti-israel and some of your best friends are jewish etc etc etc, but oops, you just let the mask slip again.
Haystack
- 31 Dec 2010 14:40
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There were 1.3 Arabs and 600,000 Jews living in the area before the partition. In 1914 the Jewish population was about 8% and owned about 2% of the land and increased so that by 1947 the Jewish population was 33%.
Here is a breakdown of the Jewish/Palestinian populations by district in 1946.
http://www.nad-plo.org/maps/refugees/pdf/subdistrict.pdf
From the table below you can see the fall in Muslim inhabitants of Israel from 58% to 15%
Just Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel
Year Jews Muslims Muslim Percentage
1946 608.2 1,076.8 58.35%
1950 1,203.0 116.1 8.80%
1972 2,752.7 360.6 11.58%
1995 4,522.3 811.2 15.21%
2000 4,955.4 970.0 16.73%
Haystack
- 31 Dec 2010 14:46
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Gausie
You are wrong, there is no mention of Jews. You are just paranoid as usual.
The law was first introduced by the Jordanians when they controlled the West Bank.
The law states this "Law for Preventing the Sale of Immoveable Property to the Enemy".
Under this statute, "the enemy" is defined as
... any man or judicial body [corporation] of Israeli citizenship living in Israel or acting on its behalf.[11]
The statute additionally states that anyone who sells land to an alien (non-Jordanian or non-Arab) without permission from the government will also be subject to the death penalty.
Later in 1997, the PA began drafting a new law to replace the Jordanian statute, known as the "Property Law for Foreigners". Under the provisions of this draft proposal, the sale of land to "occupiers" was described as an act of "national treason", with "occupiers" defined as the "government of occupation [ie Israel], its civilian and military institutions and its individual citizens".
Haystack
- 31 Dec 2010 16:46
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Figures released today: -
The projected number of Palestinians in the world at the end of 2010 is 11 million.
The distribution of the Palestinians according to the report is as follows: 4.1 million Palestinians were in the 1967-occupied Palestinian territory (of which 2.5 million were in the West Bank and 1.6 million in Gaza), 1.4 million Palestinians in 1948-occupied Palestine, 5 million in Arab countries and 600 thousand in other countries.
The report also stated that 44% of Palestinians living in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip are refugees (18% in the West Bank and 26% in the Gaza Strip).
aldwickk
- 31 Dec 2010 16:57
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Don't you think it would be a good idea to close this thread next year ?
cynic
- 31 Dec 2010 17:05
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one doesn't have to post, and in normal times, i have rarely bothered to do so .... leave it to the ranting one
aldwickk
- 31 Dec 2010 17:12
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Should that be the ranting one's ....... In the land of , being the other.
Haystack
- 31 Dec 2010 17:30
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I don't mind my posts being chactarised as rnats, especially as they don't qualify as such.
Today
A group of Israeli settlers in the northern West Bank district of Toubas confiscated vast areas of Palestinian-owned land around the Rotim settlement.
Palestinian eyewitnesses said on Thursday that dozens of settlers raided on Wednesday night lands adjacent to the Rotim and confiscated about 30 dunums (1 dunum= 100sq meters), one of the settlers even started ploughing the land.
Aref Daragmeh, local head of Bedouin council said that the confiscated land belonged to four Palestinian citizens, two of them from the same family.
He called on human rights organisations to help Palestinians protect their land.
Fred1new
- 31 Dec 2010 18:19
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Baldick,
What is offending you about this thread.
Why are you so touchy.
To me, the thread has been and is informative about the M/E and those who post on it!
I don't buy newspapers, or books, which I think are likely to contain rubbish and similarly I pick and chose which TV programmes I watch, but I certainly don't want to suppress them or censor them.
Allow adults to make their own choices.
I just wonder, what brings you back to this thread and repeatedly advocate its demise,
Are you sure of your motivation?
cynic
- 31 Dec 2010 18:38
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Fred - it would have made a much more interesting thread had it not been full of verbose and boringly repetitive c+p .... whether or not these items are factual - always a debatable issue, as it depends on who wrote them - is pretty much irrelevant ..... one would have hoped that the inhabitants of this BB had brains of their own with which to make concise, trenchant or even entertaining comment
Haystack
- 31 Dec 2010 18:49
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The arguments of necessity cannot be brief or concise and are hardly likely to be entertaining.
Fred1new
- 31 Dec 2010 19:01
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Cynic,
I am trying to reduce the number of expletives I use.
That tends to increase the lengths of replies.
8-)
aldwickk
- 31 Dec 2010 19:47
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I thought it would be a good idea to close this thread as the debate is getting nowhere. The post's are getting like Fred's ,with reply's being twisted , silly , off topic and question's being answered with another question.
Fred1new
- 31 Dec 2010 20:22
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"question's being answered with another question. "
Let me introduce you to real life.
Anyway, I wish all (including the Squelched" a happy, or at least a contented New year.
Blwyddyn newydd dda i chi
cynic
- 31 Dec 2010 21:08
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Q: Why do jews always answer a question with another question?
A: I should know?
aldwickk
- 31 Dec 2010 23:31
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Doublespeak (sometimes called doubletalk) is language that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words. Doublespeak may take the form of euphemisms (e.g., "downsizing" for layoffs), making the truth less unpleasant, without denying its nature. It may also be deployed as intentional ambiguity, or reversal of meaning (for example, naming a state of war "peace"). In such cases, doublespeak disguises the nature of the truth, producing a communication bypass.
Fred , Next year why don't you try to get out more, there's more to life then posting on here.
Fred1new
- 01 Jan 2011 09:38
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Ald,
Your obvious irritation, pleases me to much.
fahel
- 02 Jan 2011 10:07
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Fred1new
- 02 Jan 2011 11:52
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Fahel,
Thank you for posting.
V. Interesting.
cynic
- 02 Jan 2011 12:36
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you're right that the history part is very interesting, but to my mind, the whole thing is devalued by its blatant partisan subtext ...... i'm afraid that both sides are afflicted with hardcore zealots who make the difficult course to a peaceful solution 50x harder .... of course it was little different in ireland too